Why are Genesis 9 characters so ugly?

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    eelgoo
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    That is exactly why I favour porting the better G9 characters to G8. 🙂

    #2182595
    GohanF22
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    @Josie - Issue with that is, it's STILL not a perfect 1 for 1, comapred to an actual converter that you can get from people like zevo or SY.

    Issue is, with this ADRONGENOUS BODY that is assine to even deal with and being a UNIMESH, converting models is impossible and I think their shareholders TOLD them to do it this way so people can't get what they want. "Own nothing, and be happy" situation at play again.

    As many have said, if Gen 10 is being worked on, but I HIGHLY DOUBT IT, but if it is, if it is NOT Separate meshes, and has FULL BACKWARD compatibility for conversion from Gen 2, Gen 3, and Gen 8, it is OVER for DAZ.

    #2182603
    eelgoo
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    Nothing really has to be 1 : 1, often the differences actually add to the finished character.
    I have certainly noticed that on quite a few G9 to G8F ports. They often look better than the original. Certainly a contributary factor is that you are working to a dedicated female base 🙂

    #2182604
    eelgoo
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    Do Zev0 or SY actually do a G9 to G8F Character Converter?

    If they do I have missed it. :0/

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    Felicia
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    Ditto :/ @eelgoo

    #2182614
    ItsMeNotYou
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    yes it would be nice to have a skin converter from G9 to G8

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    GohanF22
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    @eelgoo - No. They even said with it being Unimesh, it wouldn't work well for a converter. Only if it were separate meshes would it work. Why Converting Gen 2, Gen 3 to Gen 8 works perfectly fine. Even Victoria 4 to Gen 8, cause it's still a separate mesh.

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    Felicia
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    @inversekinematics Dear friend - I'd ask Hunter, he's has an answer I'm sure.

    #2182664
    Josie
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    You have to export G9 and then import as G8 doing some funky magic to make sure the G8 mesh conforms to the G9 character and the textures still map right. It's a similar idea to some remesh tools where you can take a head unimesh and conform it to a high poly sculpt, then you bake the textures and details onto the low poly mesh. I think most of it has to be done in an external program, and then you still have to apply the Daz skeleton from G8 to the new import. It's been a while since I heard about it. You can convert G8 to G9 in daz, but it's much more complicated to do the reverse.

    One way to do it is by using softwrap simulation addon in Blender, which can put a G8 mesh on top of the G9 character, then you bake the entire body to the G8 mesh which would create a new G8 compatible texture. There's more to that process but it's possible to do a good conversion.

    They barely mess with it here, but being able to slide the mesh around to let it settle where it should, is probably a lot easier between a G9 and G8 mesh, than between a simple head mesh and a 1 million poly sculpt.

    #2182813
    Josie
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    How can anyone be downgraded below entry level? 😂 And why would that even be a thing?

    #2182842
    Josie
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    So, under this reasoning some of us should be a lot higher rank than BLANK. Not that I really care. I never really got into all the forum rankings and whatnot. Even years ago when it was the latest thing. To me the whole idea that someone would make it blank as some kind of punishment is hilarious. Like:

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    #2182909
    GohanF22
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    @Josie - I think its the site, cause right now on my Screen, I would have to take a screenshot, but your rank right now, Josie, is your GIF you just used of Wizard of OZ.

    I think the site is glitchy, but that is to be expected when you are surviving from outside funding to keep it going as a pirate site.

    Otherwise, you would have it run like DAZ or Renderosity, or any other site that is run by a company.

    It's no big deal to me. Just weird that others have theirs, but people like you, myself, Inverse and some others I have seen don't have them anymore, which has me wondering why.

    #2182910
    GohanF22
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    @josie - And your question on how anyone can be downgraded? Well...there are some in here that many of us don't trust, and there are a few even as moderators. Probably didn't like us not falling in line and we face the consequences for our actions. Its another way of being censored. This is why I keep telling people, there are MORE THAN ONE TYPE of Slippery Slope, and just because you may avoid one, don't mean you may not go down another.

    It's like the chutes and ladders game that you can't fine anywhere anymore, cause the cult prohibited it ever being sold again. Why? Cause it told truth and how what is all going on is based on Good Vs Evil.

    A christian agnostic made that game. And the true winners of that game were the ones that finished last, cause the idea of the chute, was the slippery slope, and the idea of the ladder, was the LONG HARD ROAD FOUGHT, ie taking the HIGH ROAD.

    #2182934
    Josie
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    I honestly don't care if it's a glitch or it's intentional. It's just funny to me that if it is intentional, that someone would think that it matters. It doesn't. It's as meaningless as buying an NFT. If it's not a phycial thing, it doesn't matter. I don't get paid more in my job for having a forum rank. People can get caught up in all kinds of hopium about the digital world, or how "AI is improving our lives" when the reverse is demonstrably proveable. Because of who is abusing it and weaponizing it already, and will continue to do so, no matter who is "elected".

    So physical things are more important now than ever, because the promise of a digital world is the mirage of a carrot, and the AI is the stick they'll whack us all with after stepping into their trap. It might seem convenient to be able to read a fully scanned copy of out of print books on Kindle, but that means they destroyed the original, and can change the digital if they want. They could flat out rewrite it so it contradicts the original and you'd never know unless you had an original printed copy to compare it to, and they know that. That's why they're destroying physical books.

    It's also why they're counting on people's reliance on AI to answer all their questions instead of thinking for themselves, or looking up the source to test it's credibility themselves. Even though AI contradicts itself constantly, or regards editorials on the source material, even when those editorials get it wrong, to be a more credible source than the actual source. We know they're going to abuse it and use it to trick people, because they already are doing that.

    So I put about as much stock in forum ranks or anything else on the AI flooded internet, as I do in someone who repeatedly lies to me. It's not important enough for me to care so I just try to avoid it all. And when I can't for some reason, I laugh at it, because it's all so Brawndo stupid now. I never thought I'd live to see cyberpunks saying "Trust the authorities" either, but here we are.

    #2182935
    MorganAscot
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    Do you know of any guides for creating just a character morph of a genesis 9 character to be useable for Genesis 8?

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