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TY!! Sorry to waste your time, someone else let me know via PM, and updated above; that's what I get for being impatient!
@3demon I understand that; @eelgoo said it better than I did, it's not about the for sale part - I believe firmly in the right to sell things that are fundamentally as presented in terms of utility and all risks are tested and stated clearly so people are informed, an AI generated 3D figure is still a full fledged 3D figure that functions more or less the same in the software! It's about presentation, marketing, and the the obfuscation of how things are created. When it comes to craft goods, even digital ones, how they're built does matter imo and factors into my consideration of worth.
@ethiopia I don't haunt the Daz forums enough; how do the PAs there feel about Daz's hard turn into selling 3D assets for AI training? Actually I should probs do my own research as to if they get to opt out of being part of the data! Now that you've mentioned them gonna keep an eye out! I figured on XI as much as I like their stuff, but they whip them out so fast I didn't see how it was done without AI.
To me, really! If they are to you, that's of course fine. My core issue remains the lack of transparency so buyers can decide themselves via knowing how they're created if it's worth $7-12.
agree to disagree and all that! I'm far too lazy tonight after my work day to debate consumer protection, just shaking my fist at the clouds abt AI slop.
Agreeed there are several items in Daz that are not tagged as AI assisted that I'm pretty sure are largely AI whipped up.
Yes! AI is such a weird mix of 'it's literally stealing art style without compensation' and "empowers people without expensive or time-consuming training to be very creative and create, which is fulfilling", and lets ppl create their own cool stuff.
It's such a weird ass time for humanity.
haha *cough cough* indeed! That's a good point on the market will sort itself out @GrouchyOldFart, and 3Demon I agree with your point in the abstract as well.
But when focusing down on exactly what bothers me about the practice is that especially with the insane speed of AI generation capability advancement, there are a very solid amount of people who see these fun good looking assets and aren't at all aware they're not worth $7-$12, and that these vendors are taking advantage of a moment in time where general populace awareness of capability hasn't caught up to the tech yet? (and for many it never will)
If they were saying in their descriptions "I used the 3D open weight model Trellis to whip this up in 30 mins" that'd be different, but while there's an AI tag that could mean 'used AI to do a final pass' and isn't very clear on what level of it was used.
So while it's not illegal I still see it as shady and as yeah scammy?
But I'm also not a Caveat Emptor believer either, so we may just disagree philosophically! Not that this is what you're saying, I'm spinning off into big-picturism, but am leery of the concept of 'survival & thrive-l of the most shameless' that's sorta a clarion cry of post-capitalism and the billionaires as space gods race.
But on the flip it is just $7, so whatever. But I sideeye!
Definitely worth playing with and prompting! I cheat and use AI to write my prompts and work through what's not working, especially with the tag ones, I'm awful at doing those without help ðŸ˜
I'm sorry it seems less friendly! I've had pretty positive experiences thus far - but also I've learned there's always a certain amount of scamming that happens on piracy sites unfortunately. (but maybe not surprisingly)
Yes, was about to post the same! Can't reach any of the fills. The Website Down checker says it's likely truly down rn.
Yeah, both Daz and Comfy open together is a VRAM nommer.
it was actually Aire - which is really cool, not a knock, it's much more accessible than Comfy - making me download Comfy that led me to move to actually just straight using it to create AI, learning the workflows and what different models can do (found a really nifty double pass template that uses Krea 2 raw and distillations + interesting checkpoints to turn out some lovely work, add controlnet to lock in Daz staging and poses and the sky's the limit.
Hypothetically, I'm no currently learning inpainting and masking, it's powerful but finicky.
Basically it's a great gateway to expand from for a Daz-AI polish workflow
Same! I did a deep dive into the dev console and I don't think this is on purpose, I think they broke something in the plugins the last time they updated, since it was broken, they still uploaded a bunch of stuff anyway?
This was the outcome from my digging what it's doing:
The frontend script does a simple GET request to /wp-json/url-masker-pro/v1/resolve/<token>. Because DRA intercepts that request and returns HTTP 401 instead of 200, resolvedUrl stays null, the script drops into the else block, and it manually injects that exact grey placeholder into the button.Hopefully that is the case and they figure out soon they're not making any money!
