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May 11, 2023 at 3:41 AM #1969302
Can someone explain to me the prices for some 3d models for sale on the big 3d sites. For example, I would love so much to get my hands on some of the amusement park 3d models on turbosquid but this on is usually $200 on sale for $165. it looks perfect but who pays for them. there are some that are hundreds of dollars but who it the market for these?
May 11, 2023 at 3:44 AM #1969305here's one i want so bad, an airliner bathroom. usually $70 on sale for $55. there are others that are insanely expensive.
May 11, 2023 at 3:48 AM #1969306this a nice model but it costs more than the actual drill costs if you went to home depot and purchased it in real life...
May 11, 2023 at 3:51 AM #1969308i want this so bad but this one cost $1200!
May 11, 2023 at 3:58 AM #1969311Perhaps we shouldn't dis Daz so much when they sell similar or better models for a 10th of the price.
The people who buy them, if they actually sell any, are probably not private citizens but those working for a company on an expense account. The plane toilet would only be useful for me for a "mile-high club" render 😁May 11, 2023 at 4:01 AM #1969314that's what i want it for too!
May 11, 2023 at 4:14 AM #1969316@Frank22 hit the nail on the head. It's not hobbyists like us that buy these models, it's companies, and they're priced the way they are because the license that comes with the purchase allows for commercial use, whereas with Das models, if you want the third-party license, you generally have to pay a lot more.
May 11, 2023 at 4:41 AM #1969324Another thing, how does Turbosquid get away with selling items with copywrited labels for commercial use? This coke bottle not only has a copywrited logo but also its trademarked shape.
May 11, 2023 at 6:13 AM #1969339If the author acquired a license from the copyright holder the items will be expensive. Some vendors like the 'advertising' effect and wont take down the content even if they could sue the creators for $$$ - at least as long as they have enough money.
With https://zonegfx.com/?s=carnival there are some props but of course not all. Creating a big scene with many props and light is a lot of work and if someone needs it for professional renders it is usually cheaper to spend $1000 than to spend 5 hours creating such a scene.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/R3A6wy (coke bottle for blender) is available for free so I wonder who really want to pay for similar content.
May 11, 2023 at 7:06 AM #1969355"If the author acquired a license from the copyright holder..." then Turbosquid would make that very clear on their product page. And I seriously doubt they have actually obtained such license or they would say so.
May 11, 2023 at 9:01 AM #1969439Apart from the issue of logos, and the "form" of design, in industrial design (my real job...), there are a series of determining factors.
-There is a "pact" of confidentiality between the author/client, which is why you have never seen anything of what I do, since it belongs to "my client/company", since I have sold it to them... Normally, my price ranges between €6,000/30,000. With a couple of projects that I do, which usually last about 2 or 4 months, I have to live all year... and think "other"...
The problem arises when you distribute "industrial models and/or patents":
-You are making a profit at the expense of the original creator and/or company. Therefore, it is illegal.
-We have technology to make a "3D scanner", simply for personal use: If you obtain benefits, you must declare them to the Treasury department, which I doubt in these cases...
-Any design you make, either you patent it as an "industrial model" or "patent", or you put a Creative Commons license on it, for example. And the CC license is recognized by courts.
Simplifying: There is a lot of "son of a bitch" on TurboSquid. Not so in Grabcad..., costing €/$0..., BUT only for personal use. If there is an adaptation or derivative, you have to contact the creator. Otherwise, you can make a complaint before courts of Justice for misappropriation.Even myself, I register my designs as an "industrial model" or I grant them a Creative Commons license before giving a project in CAD/CAM (Step/Igs/Solidwors/STL format, etc...) and its plans with exact dimensions, including the type of material with which it must be made in the molds (which I also do..., unless I have to adapt to the technology used by the client/company).
But EVERYTHING, before delivery, in my name. And then if the customer rejects it, it's not lost. It's still mine, and I can sell the same project to competing companies...
Working for the love of Art is very nineteenth-century..., and we live in the 21st century... (I think!)May 11, 2023 at 9:25 AM #1969449For example, the image of the "Coca-Cola" bottle posted by @frank22 is protected by intellectual property, patents, etc...
NOBODY can use this model to obtain economic benefits: Not even making a mold, nor using it in a "bar poster in your neighborhood"... IT IS a criminal offense in all countries of the world... (I don't know if in the Mauritius Islands there is that... 😀 )May 11, 2023 at 9:29 AM #1969450And, already within the matter, I very much doubt that Daz3d will declare its earnings, and its "supposed contracts" with the PAS's are real. EVERYTHING is black money... Or do you think that a PA makes an income statement with his "little shit"? Bah!...
May 11, 2023 at 9:41 AM #1969464@5200north, this image is from the company "Black & Decker"... Then, therefore, it is illegal to make use of "that model" since it is protected by law. "Ergo", the seller is a thief. And you can report it, either by yourself, or by sending an e-mail to "Black&Decker" and exposing the case... It could cost to the thief... years in prison and a generous cash "multa"... 😀
May 11, 2023 at 4:27 PM #1969643For 'Black & Decker' this is free advertising and they hopefully like it. The author could have created a model of an Altocraft or any other brand but they didn't. If B&D asked to take it down the creator might deliver models for other brands and this would be the worst thing for the marketing department. The same applies to Cola - they hopefully don't like to see Pepsi 3D models. They better don't take down Cola models or ask to remove not properly licensed Cola artwork. Even though it is illegal they tolerate it as it usually has a positive effect for the brand.
All big companies scan the internet for fake products and remakes (at least I hope they do) and should have a list of the web pages and creators.
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