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3DLover thank you I am glad you like my suggestion. After thinking about it more I think it needs three options.
1. This can be used only for refills but do not share on public blog or other sites
2. This can be publicly shared/reshared anywhere
3. Do not reshare or use for refills anywhere at allulysses fillers do have more say as far as I'm concerned. If they say do not share I respect their wishes. When they don't say anything I think it means they don't care what happens to it and it's public. This is a sharing site my default is to share unless the filler says not to. They do have say but they must say it.
3DLover if I was not clear sorry.
The issue is people are NOT honoring requests in fills to NOT share publicly when requested.
That was not the issue. I started the discussion becuase I refilled an item I got from here and the original filler did not say "do not share". I check my messages before refilling to make sure of that. After I refilled the item I got a warning and threatened with a ban if I did it again. The only thing in the rules about sharing is to respect the wishes of the filler when they request it not to be shared. I have always done that.
I've shared and recieved items that are from other pirate sites and are not purchased by the person doing the fill. I never thought to say "you can reshare this item" for the items and neither did other fillers to me when they were already PUBLIC items from other sites. When a filler does not want their item to be shared because they are worried it'll come back on them then they will think about it and say DO NOT SHARE.
My understanding was items shared without saying DO NOT SHARE are items released into the wild and can be freely shared on a pirate site for sharing items. I am being asked to read minds to know this is not ok. I would not think items I receive cannot be also shared unless the filler says DO NOT SHARE. It's not hard for the filler to say DO NOT SHARE if they want. If the filler does not put that then my understanding is they do not care if it is shared.
If a setting is added then it will force everyone think about it before filling. The filler have to choose "can share" or "do not share" before it will submit. For items from other sites or the filler doesn't care then they are public items adn can be reshared. For items the filler purchased and are worried about it they choose do not share. This is the best way to handle it. With a setting mods can track "do not share" items and be more strick about warnings and bans. If they add this setting put it in the FAQ that items labed DO NOT SHARE are not to be shared and explain the consequences like ONE WARNING then BAN. Problem solved. ^_^
One more idea. If fillers are worried about items they purchased coming back to them what if they can only be refilled again if detracking is done on the item again by the person who wants to refill. The files cannot be identical to the one you recieved if the filler says so. This adds more random scrambled files into the wild and lowers the chance that they will be tracked back to one person. Anyone trying to track one user down will have a harder time doing it when there are more files and they are all different. They will be chasing multiple ghosts.
Isn't pirating about releasing content into the wild?
THANK YOU ADAM!!! I've been trying not to be a dick about it but THAT was my understanding. This is pirate site where it is ok to share items that have NOT been released to the wild but I'm expected to read minds to know it is not ok to share items that HAVE been released to the wild? Come on!
If I download a movie from Pirate Site A there is no secret unspoken bro-code to not to reshare it again if the link is dead or to not post it to Pirate Site B. That's the nature of pirating. I apply that same idea here.
If a filler asks NOT to share their item and this site wants to respect the wishes of the filler I get that. It should be on the filler to make that request because THIS IS A PIRATE SITE FOR SHARING! ^_^ Respecting the wishes of the filler is the only thing stated in the rules and I have done that.
Not all items are purchased by the filler. I have filled items that I obtained from OTHER pirate sites. I never thought to say "I got this from another pirate site. Feel free to reshare it too." I have accidentally given points for items I immediately found on R-S because I brain fart and forgot to check. The filler did not tell me it was from another site and I could reshare it. I found it myself. If a filler purchased the item and are worried about reprocussions then they should take the initiative to say DO NOT SHARE. Some may not respect their wishes even when they say it, but I will and I always do. I have not refilled any item where the filler said not to. I thought I was being respectful to the filler by doing so.
Are reprocussions from selling sites an issue with detracking? This is a genuine question because I don't follow all of this and I don't know. Can they still find you if you detracked your item and how?
I read the rules and there is no rule against refills, I assume this is ALWAYS going on. I suspect my mediafire links have been used in refills because I noticed download numbers on mediafire dashboard went up after fills I did not do. It was a causal glance at the numbers I did not investigate deep.
I do not purchase from stores I have no account on a store. My DAZ content comes from pirate sites like this. I stopped using many other pirates sites after the request system was added here because this request system was more fun than other pirte sites. Now it's no longer fun. I will reserve giving points here for items I really want or suspect will not show up elsewhere in 2 days. I never cared about giving points here for items I knew would be somewhere else the next 2 days, but now I do and I'll wait.
Thanks I got it now. ^_^
In my PM Bann0r said they would look into adding my suggestion of a setting allowing refills or not. Like the "Schedule Blog Post" setting but with the two options to choose from. The default is unselected and require one to be selected to complete the fill. The filler is then aware of the choice they are making and if they allow refills there is no issue.
Maybe give EXTRA points if fillers allow refills to encourage sharing. ^_^
In the mean time I will PM fillers if they do not say and add mods to ask permission from them before sharing and add "filled with permission by" if I refill.
Thank you. It should be in the rules somewhere if this is something they do not want to happen.
I was here when filling was done on the forum. With the new fill system I don't use the forum anymore unless I have a question or I am looking for something. I don't see the discussion about conventions. I read the rules and followed them when dealing with items.
I gave my suggestion to the mods for a "public" or "private" setting that is required to be selected to post. The default is unselected and the filler has to choose one to post. A mod said they would look into it.
I just replied to you in a PM that I tried to contact you first but did not get a reply. I'm only trying to get an answer to what is going on.
The rules need to be clearly explained. If we are not allowed to refill no matter what then that should be said in the rules. I read the FAQ before filling requests to know the rules and I have followed them.
If a user is ok with sharing the items then why is that a problem? If RuinedClaw said do not share because he wanted to fill himself then I would have respected his wishes. I see lots of fillers say that and I always do what they ask. No problem. I have this item https://zonegfx.com/requests/silent-hill-2-prison-room-daz3d/ on the first page going fo 8,000 which has remained unfilled for over four months that I have not shared because the filler said not to share. I am following what the rules say to do.
I have also seen fillers say not to post to blog or other sites but that filling requests is ok. The filler should put the limits they want or none if they want. If they put none then that should be ok.
I visit the site daily too and I have been here for a few years.
I do have a solution to this. Can you put a option to allow the filler to select "private" or "public" for sharing? Then there is no question what the filler allows. If the filler selects public then it is ok for the community to share. I think we can all agree this makes the intent of the filler clear.
Is there a rule about waiting? I read the FAQ and Request FAQ I don't see in the rules any of this. What am I missing? I have been here when filling was done on the forum. It has not been a problem until now. It seems like a mistake.
Can a mod please reply? I replied to the mod who gave me the warning but they have not replied.
My warning should be reset.
The message I got said "after receiving this warning, any further violation will result in your account being suspended."
If it's not a rule then I should not get a warning or a ban because of it. Warnings and bans are for breaking the rules. If I'm not breaking a rule then why am I being punished for it?
My understanding is what I quoted from the FAQ. When a someone requests the item not be posted respect their wishes. I have done that and that is in line with the rules as far as I can tell.
I had a different understanding. I thought the site was about sharing items and if a filler says do not share then respect their wishes. I have seen fillers say do not shaer and others who do not. The ones who don't I thought are ok with sharing. I have seen some say refills are ok but don't post to blog or another site. I thought the filler would put restrictions on it if they want.
I posted when the messages were purged and I said then I use my messages to check if a filler did not want their item to be shared. I always check before filling an item.
This is my postA mod replied to me but did not say I could never reshare ANY items.
To get a warning there has to be a rule against it. I can't find it in the FAQ.
I didn't know you deleted messages. Could you give more warning before deleting messages? A couple weeks maybe. I was trying to backup my messages when the site went offline then they were gone. It happened too fast.
I may have finally found it Ruo Xi Collection for Genesis 8 Female(s) from daz3d. Does that look right?
Thanks. I will send a pm. The image has been buggy since I posted. It goes on and off. Sometimes it looks ok then it breaks again. I want to change it so it always works.
Any update on changing image without mod help? This function is very welcome.
I'm having problems with the recommended hosts. jpg2.su didn't work. bunkrr.su worked at first but then it broke. I reported to change it a couple days ago with imagehostx but it has not been updated yet and I don't know if it'll work either. I am sure mods are busy I don't want to keep bothering them with this problem.
