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Responsible!?
Have you seen the hysterical idiots out there? We've had no cases within a thousand K's of my area yet people where crawling over each other to hoard everything. All grocery stores are a madhouse. This is a university and government town yet we seem to be overrun with panicky brain dead morons. What we need is a disease that targets the stupid, instead of killing indiscriminately.On the bright side, the massive reduction in travel has resulted in a sharp drop in traffic deaths. We've saved many more lives this way than the virus has killed.
It's aged how I thought it would. If people would stop politicizing everything we would all be alot better off today in so many ways.
Yes politics and religion ruined the world. Only total anarchy and natural selection should dictate who should survive and rule the weak.
@d0gg0d without society we would all be weak ignorant or dead. We would live a third of our lifespan. We would all be grunting, sick and we would still be living in holes in rocks. No medicine, education, literature, art or technology, or electricity, no modern anything and you wouldn't be sitting there looking at that fancy device, trading and talking to people around the world free to give your opinion. One way or another you would just be in a hole and in the dark. Cruelty and hatred is born of ignorance and insecurity and is the true weakness
The medical field keeps the weak alive so they can continue to have children born with the same medical issues. It keeps people that have poor health habits alive so we can continue to pay to keep them alive.
People seem to think that extending life is a great thing. Seeing my family members suffer for years in hospital beds has taught me different.
Maybe we will all be happy when we can transfer our brains into an android or create people that live for hundreds of years by manipulation DNA and replacing parts with cloned organs.
Only the extremely wealthy will benefit first of course. Eventually leading to over population and the need to cull the herd.
I guess people see the information age as a great service to humanity. Its taught me what humanity is really like. Sure there is some good but its like specs in a sea of blackness.
I do not see the future utopia some believe we are headed for.
Call that what you will. I call it being a realist.The few people put in power will almost always abuse the authority given them. All you have to do is look at the past. Have we really come any farther in making the world better for everyone or is it better just for you? Corporations still use slave labor to manufacture products to sell at a profit that makes them multi millionaires while some children are lucky to eat as well as a pedigree dog.
We've come no further than Pharaoh sitting on his throne. We just call him a different name.
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Yes but the answer is not to go backwards or to cull the heard as you say. We will all die/breakdown eventually and, in the meantime continue to require fuel and resources, reguardless of what form we take. Still I'm not ready to give up hope in the preservation of our humanity and with it our compassion. We have to educate people to move forward. We have to put systems in place that work for the common good while perserving free, creative independence, choice and the future. Ignorance and greed will always be a problem and, politically speaking, the world is definately on the wrong track. Too few people hold all the influence, power and wealth. Were paralized by a lack of innovation in order to keep the status-quo, with the same greedy and ignorant leaders/parties/corporations that ignore reality and our greatest threats and needs, along with their responsibilty. Politics is the new religion and that's not a good thing. Too often religion is used to divide and justify autrocities that benefit weak and insecure leaders that rule with fear, division and hatred, but the true power will always be with the masses. One way or another we do choose our leaders. That's why the ability to manipulate the public politcally with blind faith is so powerful. It is a huge step backwards toward the dark ages and independent thought is our only defense. I don't see the utopia you speak of and I'm not optimistic at all but I stll remember when I was. I am a realist. None of this is new. What is new is global social media. Most people are completely unaware of the manipulation and control they're constantly inundated with, all the while believing that their decisions, choices and opinions are their own. It doesn't matter in reality whether you're on the right or left or what religion anymore. It's all divisive BS designed to either keep you a passionate believer in BS or dicourage you from giving a shit with BS. The problem with reality is that it will always be a matter of perspective and thus it's a different thing depending on every experience and circumstance in ones lifetime. There is no one reality and therefore there is no one truth. Social media changes that. Each person's reality is their own but these days too many think they know the truth without recognizing that "their truth" is only what they believe. It's what they've been told over and over with propaganda desisigned to exploit circumstances and experiences. It's designed to misinform. The difference between knowing and not knowing the truth is simple. The ignorant believe anything that reinforces what they already believe. That is truth to them and it's convenient. The intelligent are completely aware that, in reality, we don't know shit and that's inconvenient. It takes more than BS to convince the informed and educated because those people have to make a choice. They have to make up their own minds instead of having all their information spoonfed to lazy minds. Me, I'm stll hoping for some enlightenment for us all before there's a total breakdown of culture and our society. There are answers if enough people recognize the problems and care what they are. "We’ve come no further than Pharaoh sitting on his throne. We just call him a different name." You have a point but we have come farther. We have, at times, headed in the right direction, even for long periods. Social media may be the end of society, go figure, but I'm sure the pharaohs would have made the same use of it to dumb-down and control their public. It's just one constant commercial that people can't stop watching. It reminds me of that Star Trek TNG episode called "The Game." I'll give you that the oportunities for a bright future are fading and we may already be too far gone. I don't know. There are a lot of lazy zombies out there trying to eat brains instead of using them. Far more than I ever realized and it's getting worse eveyday but it's been dark before. The point is that people are not the enemy. Only ignorance, insecurity and all the bad that come from it. That's what we should be fighting. Not eachother because it is the one common threat to us all. Cruelty and the mistreatment of each other will only serve to justify the future cruelty and mistreatment of others and it will never end. Where do you think all these SOB's come from? We have to recognize them for what they are, weak damaged cowards that are anything but strong. Cowards prey on the weak and innocent. That's why the strong should and do protect them. At this point I'm just hoping people will suprise me again and WTFU before I drop. Until then I will continue to honor and cherish the good people that I love😊Well said @pumpher,
Whenever I hear people complaining about how horrible people are, I'm reminded of Desiderata by Max Ehrmann. Two passages are especially applicable to today's situation...."many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism."
...and...
"With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world."The entire thing can be found here, https://www.desiderata.com/desiderata.html
Everything we do is based off our moral,political and spiritual beliefs. Even if you have no religion you still have the belief we may be alone.
You can not separate them from you. It is who you are.
You can also choose to go against your beliefs and rationalize to yourself that it's OK. I believe that stealing from a person is wrong. I believe stealing from me is wrong. Yet here I am downloading others work for free.
You could ask me if I liked the last Star Wars movie and I would say no. Several people would then as why? I would then have to explain why I thought it was garbage. This explanation would bring in my opinions that are based in my beliefs that are based off moral and political opinions as well as what I find interesting. Which was formed by my environment.
I've no malice towards delusional people. I've yet to know if a year there wasn't multiple murders, rapes, thefts, suicides, slaves or any other thing "I" consider morally wrong.
America still has and supports slave labor. Still has human trafficking. Still has racism.
We are working toward a better life for money. Medications are ridiculously over priced as well as health care. We want space travel because we need another place to live once we screw this one up.
I'm not saying there aren't people out there actually working towards a better life for humanity for zero personal gain. I'm saying they are very rare. The concept of MINE is started once you give a child a toy.
I know who I am. I'm a good person when I choose to be. A bad person when I choose to be. I "believe" I know what is right and wrong and choose to do both. My moral compass may not line up with others and thats why humanity will never fully agree on anything. That's why wars will always happen. If we discovered Earth 2 on the other side of the Sun, there would be a mass effort to try and claim it as MINE before someone else did.
We are a species that holds property more valuable that lives. We are territorial predators with love for one another when it suits us.
Get rid of race it will be status. Get rid of status it will be appearance. Get rid of appearance it will be property. Get rid of property it will be education. There will always be something to set people apart from one another. Movies based on Mars vs Earth are based off what would happen if we were to actually start colonizing planets. One of my favorite movies. "Blade Runner" turns clones into unwilling slaves and only the "little people" that cant afford to leave Earth remain here as a global slum.
Movies like Wall-E, Mad Max, Terminator, ect... show where we are headed. Once we develop computers that have AI its a matter of time before we are either replaced or assimilated. There is a reason there isnt a navigation computer in DUNE. Most would have little moral dilemma in harvesting organs of clones if it meant we could stay alive for 160 years.
My ramblings are pointless because in 40 years Ill probably be dead and nothing you or I say will have impacted the world to any great extent. We may make a person smile, frown or laugh but the butterfly wont change the weather.
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I like people that dont sugar coat things. George opened my eyes to some realities.
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