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April 1, 2023 at 7:02 PM #1949936
I saw this post https://www.parkablogs.com/content/how-prove-your-art-not-ai-generated
What are your thoughts? Technically, how do digital artists prove their artwork is not generated by AI?Of course, I am asking about proving this with the completed arkwork itself instead of recording a time-collapse video showing how it was created like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPYdAHD-Nk0
April 1, 2023 at 9:37 PM #1950008personally, I think that any AI image generator software should by default, include a robust digital watermark that indicates its AI created.
April 2, 2023 at 3:18 AM #1950109This argument about proof only holds relevance if/when people claim AI (or any art) is something else or if one is accused of plagiarism. So the problem isn't AI in itself but relies on the honesty of an artist, any artist using any form of artistic expression.... Milli Vanilli or this.
It doesn't really matter, many great artworks are recreations of other people's works, you just have to be up-front and honest about what you do, a quality that these days seems to have an ever-diminishing importance to one's life-choices in an age of fake news, infantile posturing and those desperate for social media approval from people they don't even know.April 5, 2023 at 6:09 PM #1952225>>I see the same burden of proof being applied to art. It should be up to the observer to prove that the art WAS made with AI, rather than requiring all artists prove that their work was done by hand.
But in reality the problem is, artists are the ones who "sell" their works. They want to be acknowledged for their creativity. When the observers have a feeling that their work looks just like any AI art, then they will not appreciate the hard work behind it.
April 5, 2023 at 8:14 PM #1952302As someone who has been working in paint, wood carving, and stone carving for 37 years and digital art almost since the start, I don't have to prove anything. If anything I have added stable diffusion to my workflow in some cases and if the gatekeepers don't like it, they can French kiss my bunghole. It's not them I am selling to.
April 13, 2023 at 2:34 AM #1955892If you have the saved files from when you were working on it, then its easy to prove.
June 6, 2023 at 1:25 PM #1981206Easy enough to fake with photoshop actions. With the right software you can even redate and retime files. So you could take a generated image, use a photoshop action to create a "line drawing" version with IMG2IMGm another action to create "basic shading" etc etc and create separate images with the right dating or create layers using those. There is no way they could tell and it would take no time at all if you are skilled enough to do that in Photoshop. With even more skill you can create a custom action to apply the other actions with a click of a button on each of your images.
June 6, 2023 at 5:13 PM #1981285The answer depends on what type of artwork.
Photography? Get an old school film camera, and you'll have negatives. I suspect most DSLRs will soon come with the means to put an encrypted PGP-style signed key into the .raw image, which will confirm that a given photograph was taken by a given camera. Of course those -could- be faked, but not very easily (unless the camera's signing key was somehow hacked, but that's not quite as easy as it sounds.)
Most other forms of art will have its physical media - sculptures, paintings, drawings, etc. Easy enough to verify or debunk those.
CG art? Doable if you save the source files, since an AI-generated image won't have those.
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