@windreaver0118 - Went to go check log for errors, and on reopening 4.21 beta and starting a render with g9, it rendered fine that time, so not sure what that was about.
but all in all, after playing with it for a little bit, it will probably be awhile before I do anything with g9, I just have way to much stuff for 3 and 8/8.1 to want to go back to start over with another gen.
That and the male is very odd, I can make the torso and head look good, but the legs are just... wrong.. not sure how to explain it, the proportions on the legs seem wrong.