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  • #2156841
    Frank21
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    Very good points Keab, but I reckon possessions end up owning you, rather than the other way round. Hence all the worry and fretting about the possibility losing your stuff. I bought my first new car about 20 years ago, and boy did I love that car (Nissan SSS).
    A few weeks later on a wet day I didn't put the handbrake on properly at my unit, and the car went sailing down the driveway, through the roller doors and smashed into a brick wall, a write-off. I saw it as a omen not to become attached to material things.
    I've also moved house about six times in the past ten years and pretty much chucked away most of my possessions. My rule now is to live light, own as little as possible and only worry about important things, like friends and family.

    #2156854
    Keab
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    Wow, moving six times in such a short time must have really made you prioritize things very strictly. I'm sorry you lost your beloved car; I also have an old one but I see it just as a tool to get to work. Watching other people who make their car a part of their identity and lifestyle makes me feel liberated, like, "I don't need any of that and I'm happy for it".

    However I think it's normal to create a connection with some of our belongings, just a few ones, and that's totally OK as long as, as you say, you don't put them above the people who love and deserve to be loved by you.

    Another quote relevant to the subject:

    “People were created to be loved. Things were created to be used. The reason why the world is in chaos is because things are being loved and people are being used.” - Martin Buber

    Best regards,

    #2156855
    Ethiopia
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    Ya had to bring up cars.....
    I've always bought used Honda's then driven them hundreds of thousands of Kms. We've never made a car payment yet enjoyed a lifetime of inexpensive and completely reliable transportation.

    Then there's my baby. It's the first car I bought in 1976 and still have her. It's been a constant and taught me so many skills during the restoration. My kids and I bonded over wiring, body work , mechanical and everything else. She's beautiful, makes a glorious sound and is a joy to drive. On a sunny day, top down, on a twisty back road there's nothing better.

    #2156896
    3Demon
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    The Buddha quote is a contradiction. To be attached to nothing is to be attached...to nothing. Buddha was known for intentionally thought-provoking contradictions. The point is to ponder the contradiction, not to resolve it. Accepting some attachments (friends and family) and rejecting others is just choosing one's attachments. Everything matters. Love everything.

    As for the efforts we subject ourselves to regarding collection, storage, categorization, and all the rest...it is time, money, and effort. It may be that these are tools used in our hobby or profession. A wise carpenter protects their tools, lest their craft and income suffer. To invest time, money, and effort to obtain and maintain them, and then not to protect them is an imprudent waste of time, the most valuable commodity.

    And then for some, it just may be a 'sunk cost' fallacy, i.e. in so deep that they can't stop now.

    #2156897
    Ethiopia
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    @3demon, that's the best summation I've seen here yet.
    I'd like to add a note about those of us who have an obsession with some form of collecting. I know a stamp collector who's collection has taken over the house. I have one collection that's slowly growing and has now taken on a digital life as I scan and post. It's great fun!

    #2156898
    tony
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    i have the same hard drives
    one thing that Seagate tool does is asking me to back up all most every time my pc starts up
    i hear its a tool that can be removed ? can i remove it ???

    oh and have you see the usb that has a vault and i hear that once its locked you cant open it
    the vault within the usb you can have things on it but theres the vault you can open it and
    save other things , i stay away from them when buying any usbs

    take care and thank you for your info
    i will be doing smaller hard drives 2 and 4 or 5 ones
    i still have that fear of losing things like photos and mp3 dj music on a big drive

    #2156908
    InverseKinematics
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    Keeping your treasured 'Cat Video's' on one drive is never a good idea.
    I went with 2TB and 3TB drives. If I need more they are easy to obtain.

    #2157128
    Grouchy Old Fart
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    Anyone would think you're storing the nuclear target launch codes GOF:)

    Nah - I do tech for a living, so most of it on my end is for funsies at first. However, I store my tax info, photos, and all kinds of important stuff on both ends too, so backups seemed like a thing I should build a somewhat robust system for.

    As far as attachments, I find myself going back in time a lot - rediscovering old favorites, rehabilitating old meshes, things like that. Having it all at my fingertips just makes it all easier for me to get to. 🙂

    #2157268
    tony
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    on some hard drives i have my dj music and other photos and family videos
    and back up alot of my artwork , i keep backing up my other things and fearing losing really the videos and photos , i have 2 hard drive for my models and lost 3 hard drives

    #2186158
    ducksick
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    16 tb by toshiba enterprise/server level, they are both excellent. i too have learned the hard (disk) way that you need (at least) one copy of everything, data redundancy.


    @keab
    : freefilesync is awesome, so many foss applications doing a better job than their commercial counterparts

    #2186168
    Josie
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    I do a lot of research on real testing of large capacity HDDs before I commit. Since the manufacturers are always changing things around to confuse people, it can be a little tricky, but usually you can't go wrong with something between 4TB and 8TB if you make sure the life cycle is guaranteed to be around 7-10 years. I've had some of them last even longer. SSDs are horrible in my experience. I've rarely had any luck with them and when I do use one it's for cold storage, not constant read/writes, which makes them fail in months. I also don't mess with NAS. I'd rather they were just in a DAS setup, in a multi drive enclosure instead. The problem with enclosures is that they can be prone to disconnect constantly unless it's a really solid manufacturer. My dream enclosure is one built like a PC case for several drives, a control board that can handle a huge power supply, and room for plenty of cooling fans.

    #2186282
    Ma Arn
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    Speaking of drives crashing, if anyone knows of any recovery companies that aren't scams or pulling schemes like the ones Louis Rossman has been talking about recently, i'd greatly appreciate it, i have a couple crashed drives i'd like to attempt to get anything off of since they have a lot of old content and freebies i can't even find pages for on wayback machine anymore.

    #2186317
    Grouchy Old Fart
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    Usually your best bet for disk recovery software is to root around in the Open Source realm, since it isn't going to be some scam or paid-for trial thing. Here's a few that may help (Disclaimer: no warranties, guarantees, etc):

    https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk

    https://kickassundelete.sourceforge.net/

    ...and a whole list of tools to try: https://github.com/bst04/tools-for-data-recovery

    #2186322
    jorgen74
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    @Ma Arn: If the drive is mechanically dead, drive recovery outfits are what you're looking at. Search turned up results like this: https://www.300dollardatarecovery.com/hard-drive-data-recovery/. Can't speak to 'scams', so as always: 'caveat emptor'.

    If the drive still spins, I've used TestDisk in the past to recover data off PC and MAC drives. Plenty of other more 'user friendly' ones out there too, but your mileage may vary with those. https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download

    You can keep an eye on your drives with things like: https://hddmonitor.github.io/, which is what I use.

    #2186330
    Josie
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    I mean he has his own company that does what appears to be no BS good work.
    https://rossmanngroup.com/

    If you see a long form video showing you with complete transparency what these guys do, you can probably trust them.

    Same with this one.

    They both blow through all the BS theater and show you exactly how the sausage is made so you are not surprised, and because they don't do cleanroom theater at all, the price is cheaper. I have to get two drives recovered myself with irreplaceable files on them and I would choose one of these guys as soon as I can afford it. Even though they are cheaper than most, I still have to have the money I can justify on spending to recover the drives.

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