lost my main 20 tb hard drive

[TromNek]

usb hard drive device

[tony]

i have been looking into the NAS
i will have to put that one the back burner for now
thank you

[Ethiopia]

@digitalzombie, My experience with a NAS is a big nope! For a business where you're constantly moving lots of data it makes sense but at our level of use all it does is introduce another level of potential failure....the controller. That's what happened to me. The Sabrent drive caddies make the most sense for an individual user. They're reliable, inexpensive AND you're not tied to one type of drive. They'll see and use whatever you stick in them....(kinda like my first girlfriend). 😉

[tony]

for the online storage i am not a fan of
but i did hear of many put everything online and they get locked out and they are not helping to get there accounts back, i like my stuff at home ,

hard drives 17 years old and still working,wow along time

[Grouchy Old Fart]

I not only keep everything on at least two separate HDDs, I keep them on two separate computers (one is a NUC used for dedicated backup purposes.)

This way if my main machine gets compromised or hit with malware, I at least have an untouched backup (the backup server pulls from the computers it backs up, which prevents malware from reaching out and wrecking shares sitting on the backup server.)

[TromNek]

NAS is way too slow for direct access by DAZ.
It's fine for backup.
(though remember that, NAS is still a hard drive and can fail)

[Ethiopia]

I discovered a while back that there's something called 'bit rot' that can slowly change a few ones and zeros on a drive. You can use parity programs to check a drive every year and fix any of these small errors.

I saw someone talking about a backup & recovery FAQ on RenderHub. How about if we make one here? We certainly have plenty of knowledgeable and experienced folks. I don't think that RH (or anyone else) really gives enough of a shit to make one or support it.

[Keab]

I's really appreciate any help setting up a good -and reasonably priced- backup system; my homemade methods are getting a bit too cumbersome as storage volume increases.

[Ethiopia]

Yup! I'm told by the IT folks that Sabrent docking stations are quite reliable. They're also reasonably priced. An advantage of doing this vice a NAS box is that if the controller goes bad, the drives are still readable since they're regular old NTFS format, not some weird Raid format that can be a HUGE pain to recover.

[Grouchy Old Fart]

An advantage of doing this vice a NAS box is that if the controller goes bad, the drives are still readable since they're regular old NTFS format, not some weird Raid format that can be a HUGE pain to recover.

This cannot be repeated enough. Using funky formats, complex RAID levels, and such only works if you have like equipment to recover it with, and unless you have literal enterprise-grade gear w/ a contract attached to it, that's not likely at all after a year or two has passed.

In my case, I have a simple rig: A laptop w/ a WD 14TB USB drive on it, and a Intel NUC with a 14 TB USB drive on it. It's all synchronized w/ FreeFileSync (a free utility) and its batch file capability, with each batch file kicked off by a Windows Scheduled Task (look for Task Scheduler - you'll already have that installed.) The two are connected via Windows file shares on the laptop, over the house WiFi network (with one hell of a strong password.)

It's simple: if the laptop blows up, I have the USB HDD still intact. If the laptop gets malware, I can reformat it all and have the backup server to recover from. If the laptop USB HDD dies, I have the backup server to recover from. If the backup server dies, I replace it, plug the backup server USB HDD into it, re-make a few Scheduled Task tasks, and re-make a few FreeFileSync batch files for it to run. If the backup server external HDD blows up, I can recover it from my laptop one.

Works pretty well all around.

[Frank21]

Anyone would think you're storing the nuclear target launch codes GOF:)
I think people should be asking themselves what of this bloated 14TB do I actually use, and when did I last use it. If the answer is 2 years ago or more, just ditch it. You're never likely to use it again.

[Keab]

Nice setup, pooper. I hadn't thought of using a mini computer.

Frank, that's a great quote, but as almost all quotes we must take them with a grain of salt, the Internet is full of trashy quotes that sound great but, in reality, do nothing but rot the brains of people who spend too much time on social media platforms.

I don't think this one in particular is a bad one. On the contrary, I agree with it... up to a point, but the total lack of attachment to anything, to anyone, is a bit like giving up on life; I have many files -books, movies, documentaries, software, whatever- that are like old photos on an album I like to rewatch or reuse from time to time. And, as years goes by, they end up taking a lot of space. It is also a matter of preservation; anything that is only on the Internet can suddenly vanish forever depending on the whims of the corporations that owns those files.

So, summarizing, I'll reply you with another quote from Aristotle: "Virtue is the golden mean between two vices, the one of excess and the other of deficiency"

Best regards,

[Frank21]

Very good points Keab, but I reckon possessions end up owning you, rather than the other way round. Hence all the worry and fretting about the possibility losing your stuff. I bought my first new car about 20 years ago, and boy did I love that car (Nissan SSS).
A few weeks later on a wet day I didn't put the handbrake on properly at my unit, and the car went sailing down the driveway, through the roller doors and smashed into a brick wall, a write-off. I saw it as a omen not to become attached to material things.
I've also moved house about six times in the past ten years and pretty much chucked away most of my possessions. My rule now is to live light, own as little as possible and only worry about important things, like friends and family.

[Keab]

Wow, moving six times in such a short time must have really made you prioritize things very strictly. I'm sorry you lost your beloved car; I also have an old one but I see it just as a tool to get to work. Watching other people who make their car a part of their identity and lifestyle makes me feel liberated, like, "I don't need any of that and I'm happy for it".

However I think it's normal to create a connection with some of our belongings, just a few ones, and that's totally OK as long as, as you say, you don't put them above the people who love and deserve to be loved by you.

Another quote relevant to the subject:

“People were created to be loved. Things were created to be used. The reason why the world is in chaos is because things are being loved and people are being used.” - Martin Buber

Best regards,

[Ethiopia]

Ya had to bring up cars.....
I've always bought used Honda's then driven them hundreds of thousands of Kms. We've never made a car payment yet enjoyed a lifetime of inexpensive and completely reliable transportation.

Then there's my baby. It's the first car I bought in 1976 and still have her. It's been a constant and taught me so many skills during the restoration. My kids and I bonded over wiring, body work , mechanical and everything else. She's beautiful, makes a glorious sound and is a joy to drive. On a sunny day, top down, on a twisty back road there's nothing better.

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