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    TromNek
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    Is your failed 20TB hard drive and external USB ?
    If so, you should try taking it out of the enclosure (the black box) and using a USB device like this to try and plug it into your computer.

    Often those external USB hard drives are fine inside.

    #2156585
    TromNek
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    #2156600
    tony
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    i have been looking into the NAS
    i will have to put that one the back burner for now
    thank you

    #2156605
    Ethiopia
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    @digitalzombie, My experience with a NAS is a big nope! For a business where you're constantly moving lots of data it makes sense but at our level of use all it does is introduce another level of potential failure....the controller. That's what happened to me. The Sabrent drive caddies make the most sense for an individual user. They're reliable, inexpensive AND you're not tied to one type of drive. They'll see and use whatever you stick in them....(kinda like my first girlfriend). 😉

    #2156606
    tony
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    for the online storage i am not a fan of
    but i did hear of many put everything online and they get locked out and they are not helping to get there accounts back, i like my stuff at home ,

    hard drives 17 years old and still working,wow along time

    #2156689
    Grouchy Old Fart
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    I not only keep everything on at least two separate HDDs, I keep them on two separate computers (one is a NUC used for dedicated backup purposes.)

    This way if my main machine gets compromised or hit with malware, I at least have an untouched backup (the backup server pulls from the computers it backs up, which prevents malware from reaching out and wrecking shares sitting on the backup server.)

    #2156698
    TromNek
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    NAS is way too slow for direct access by DAZ.
    It's fine for backup.
    (though remember that, NAS is still a hard drive and can fail)

    #2156699
    Ethiopia
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    I discovered a while back that there's something called 'bit rot' that can slowly change a few ones and zeros on a drive. You can use parity programs to check a drive every year and fix any of these small errors.

    I saw someone talking about a backup & recovery FAQ on RenderHub. How about if we make one here? We certainly have plenty of knowledgeable and experienced folks. I don't think that RH (or anyone else) really gives enough of a shit to make one or support it.

    #2156700
    InverseKinematics
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    No need for a NAS. Just buy some HDD's and a docking station.
    🙂

    #2156706
    Keab
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    I's really appreciate any help setting up a good -and reasonably priced- backup system; my homemade methods are getting a bit too cumbersome as storage volume increases.

    #2156788
    InverseKinematics
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    A cheap USB 3.0 docking station and some WD Enterprise HDD'S are the way. Both can be bought used if you're on a budget 🙂

    #2156790
    Ethiopia
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    Yup! I'm told by the IT folks that Sabrent docking stations are quite reliable. They're also reasonably priced. An advantage of doing this vice a NAS box is that if the controller goes bad, the drives are still readable since they're regular old NTFS format, not some weird Raid format that can be a HUGE pain to recover.

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    Grouchy Old Fart
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    An advantage of doing this vice a NAS box is that if the controller goes bad, the drives are still readable since they're regular old NTFS format, not some weird Raid format that can be a HUGE pain to recover.

    This cannot be repeated enough. Using funky formats, complex RAID levels, and such only works if you have like equipment to recover it with, and unless you have literal enterprise-grade gear w/ a contract attached to it, that's not likely at all after a year or two has passed.

    In my case, I have a simple rig: A laptop w/ a WD 14TB USB drive on it, and a Intel NUC with a 14 TB USB drive on it. It's all synchronized w/ FreeFileSync (a free utility) and its batch file capability, with each batch file kicked off by a Windows Scheduled Task (look for Task Scheduler - you'll already have that installed.) The two are connected via Windows file shares on the laptop, over the house WiFi network (with one hell of a strong password.)

    It's simple: if the laptop blows up, I have the USB HDD still intact. If the laptop gets malware, I can reformat it all and have the backup server to recover from. If the laptop USB HDD dies, I have the backup server to recover from. If the backup server dies, I replace it, plug the backup server USB HDD into it, re-make a few Scheduled Task tasks, and re-make a few FreeFileSync batch files for it to run. If the backup server external HDD blows up, I can recover it from my laptop one.

    Works pretty well all around.

    #2156822
    Frank21
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    Anyone would think you're storing the nuclear target launch codes GOF:)
    I think people should be asking themselves what of this bloated 14TB do I actually use, and when did I last use it. If the answer is 2 years ago or more, just ditch it. You're never likely to use it again.

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    #2156827
    Keab
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    Nice setup, pooper. I hadn't thought of using a mini computer.

    Frank, that's a great quote, but as almost all quotes we must take them with a grain of salt, the Internet is full of trashy quotes that sound great but, in reality, do nothing but rot the brains of people who spend too much time on social media platforms.

    I don't think this one in particular is a bad one. On the contrary, I agree with it... up to a point, but the total lack of attachment to anything, to anyone, is a bit like giving up on life; I have many files -books, movies, documentaries, software, whatever- that are like old photos on an album I like to rewatch or reuse from time to time. And, as years goes by, they end up taking a lot of space. It is also a matter of preservation; anything that is only on the Internet can suddenly vanish forever depending on the whims of the corporations that owns those files.

    So, summarizing, I'll reply you with another quote from Aristotle: "Virtue is the golden mean between two vices, the one of excess and the other of deficiency"

    Best regards,

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