- This topic has 409 replies, 129 voices, and was last updated 1 month, 2 weeks ago by
.
-
Posts
-
My problem with that is I do share and make fills when I am able to, and I have no problem with that, but that's where I would like to hit at least a rank that's not 1. Maybe cap at 2 or 3 to show I share but at a lower level or rate. Does that make sense?
A lot of these problems could be helped a little if your rank does not drop as you spend your points. Have the rank always show the highest achieved. Then some people wont be looked at as level 1 simply because they bought stuff. It is the simplest implement, easier than badges. I would like to add that point transfers from user to user should not increase rank. Theres a loophole because a user can simply transfer points back and forth amongst all their fake accounts and increase ranks on all of them.
Now, this I didn't know:
Theres a loophole because a user can simply transfer points back and forth amongst all their fake accounts and increase ranks on all of them.
I only have my one account here, but I guess if this is the case, every time I get points, I can give half away to rank up then. Kool!
*RELAX* I'm just kidding, as that is an abuse of the system as well.This I did know, and that would be a good fix:
A lot of these problems could be helped a little if your rank does not drop as you spend your points. Have the rank always show the highest achieved.
Now, this I didn't know:
Theres a loophole because a user can simply transfer points back and forth amongst all their fake accounts and increase ranks on all of them.
Right now, it wouldnt really be too much of a problem, because the first account would drop rank levels upon transfer of points, and only the second account would gain. But if it was switched to the way I suggested (rank = all-time top achieved points), THEN this would be a loophole that would need to be changed to accomodate this new method. Still easily accomplished, though.
THEN this would be a loophole that would need to be changed to accomodate this new method. Still easily accomplished, though.
Ah, ok got it! I miss read your last post.
Multi-accounting is a problem that everyone has and that cannot be fully fixed. Lowering the # of point you can transfer at once (let's say to 500) and/or limiting the number of transfers per month (let's say to twice a month) could help diminish that behavior tho.
On the idea about keeping your rank to the highest you have achieved: the only downside to it could be to create a situation where a person contributes once to the site and won't have any incentive to contribute again. This is not necessarily bad in itself if the user base is large enough. Just something to be aware of and then decide if we want.
I like Adam's idea, I had a similar idea but mine only uses points and would necessitate a rework of the levels system. Basically the numbers of ranks would increase, the daily points rewards would be tied to the rank and would increase with the ranks. This could look like this (but keep in mind those number are for illustration purpose only):
The only important thing about those numbers is to keep the first ranks easy to reach and then get harder to climb the ladder in time. In my exemple, at first you need 20k to lvl, then 25k, then 50k and then 100k per level. Again, those numbers are not important, its the proportion between increments that it.
On the idea about keeping your rank to the highest you have achieved: the only downside to it could be to create a situation where a person contributes once to the site and won't have any incentive to contribute again.
This is true, but it would be incredibly difficult to increase in ranks without contributing in SOME way. The amount of points per day given is minimal, and if they are just downloading, would be almost impossible to rank higher.
Lowering the # of point you can transfer at once (let's say to 500) and/or limiting the number of transfers per month (let's say to twice a month) could help diminish that behavior tho.
No need to change limits. Just make it so those points are usable by the recipient, but do not count towards rank. They technically shouldnt anyway, since whatever the reason for the transfer was for, it doesnt contribute to the zone in any way, its only for the benefit of those involved and rest of the zone universe is not aware of it nor benefits from it. Those transfers are relics from the old way of trading before the request system.
After thinking further, could also make the daily login points also NOT count towards rank. They would only be useful for downloading. So no rank increases for point transfers or daily login points, those points are only points useful for downloading.
And then from that point anything can be done: potentially limit less than rank X from certain things, depending on what the admins come up with.
Pretty much most issues could be solved with this, and its super simple to implement, its literally adding just 1 numeric variable and 1 data field in the DB.
Okay, after reading through all 23 pages of comments here, I still don't fully understand what is happening or why, but I get the general drift they're trying to encourage more participation? Or is that completely off?
That in mind, I thought I'd contribute by re-posting some dead links. Have to say, that was an absolute shit-show and I can see why people avoid it.
Finding dead links is awful. 58 pages of items, no filters. I have a lot of Daz assets to re-post, but I can't filter for Daz only. Knowing when they were originally posted would be helpful for me to check if I have anything. Nope, just a big list of posts, no other info.
Okay, I found a couple of posts I have assets for. Should be pretty simply to re-post with the new link right? Nope. That's a whole new post from scratch. Surely a one-click copy button could be added to dead posts, where you can just update the link?
Cool, that was a lot of work, but it's done now. Nope. Apparently 2 of my links were already re-posted. Go knows where, they were still dead links when I first posted. What am I supposed to do about that? God knows. Search apparently, but I thought we were replacing dead links?
Now, one post left, nope, that's reported as a dead link now as well. Mega have received a DCMA hit against it, so, yeah, it's a dead link. But once again, what am I supposed to do about that? God knows. Apparently I'm going to lose 200 points now because of that. Or I need to upload it again, which will almost certainly get taken down straight away. So, fuck me I guess?
Anyway, point to all of this is, if we're trying to encourage participation, make it easier to participate! My experience trying to help has been awful, and I see no reason to try again, in fact, it seems like I'll be worse off after this.
"Apparently 2 of my links were already re-posted.."
Some might have been pending (waiting room) and got in before you. Or part of a bundle which is hard to search for.
With the reduction of points it's kind of a Black Friday sale in the dead posts, maybe mass-looting would be a better analogy.
kay, after reading through all 23 pages of comments here, I still don't fully understand what is happening or why, but I get the general drift they're trying to encourage more participation? Or is that completely off?
When I first saw the issue, that's what the older members were saying, but what they were really talking about (it took me a minute to get what the real issue was, too) was the members with multiple accounts, which evidently was jacking things up! I thought it was people taking but not giving, or maybe I am still confused about the issue here!
It's a bit of both those issues. Then developed into an opportunity to vent on a wide range of things which didn't help. If they leave things the way they are now then I'm quite happy with that.
Basically the numbers of ranks would increase, the daily points rewards would be tied to the rank and would increase with the ranks. This could look like this (but keep in mind those number are for illustration purpose only):
@heetee .. while your table does look good.. it is possible to be a member of the Zone for a long time and visit daily and still be at a lower level.. 🙂.. i've been here for quite some time now and i have around 100,000 points now.. i visit the site almost everyday and i have re uploaded assets, bought assets and every time there is a competition i drop something in the pot..
.. i've been a level 3 for a very long time now because my points are spent every time and i don't care..
.. but according to this.. i will be getting 90 points for site visit.. which means it might take a bit more time to accumulate and i would have less to give out..🙂
Another new look - looking good...
But still remember good old Edward Elisabeth Hitler... 🙂
After thinking further, could also make the daily login points also NOT count towards rank. They would only be useful for downloading. So no rank increases for point transfers or daily login points, those points are only points useful for downloading.
This only matters if rank means something here. Right now, it doesn't.
The benefit of accumulating points is twofold:
-so you can make requests
-so you can "buy" stuff with themOther than that, they mean nothing because, currently, rank means nothing.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
