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July 4, 2023 at 1:30 AM #1993532
So just making conversation here,
how many jill valentine versions is there ? Which is the first one ? Which is the best one ?July 5, 2023 at 4:44 AM #1993842Over 10 but under 100, lol.
They are all done using the same process, so they will be very similar. The number/placement of points used in the conversion paired with whether the textures are refined make the difference in quality of the final product. I haven't tested enough of them to have an opinion on this specific character. In general, 3duk ends up in the low end of the quality spectrum and merchants like Sonne, BlopBlopFish, twitkiss and DazWraps end up in the higher end. This is largely due to the attention to detail and tweaks done to the textures/clothing meshes usually accompanying various conversions. With the volume of releases that 3duk provides, there is no way any extra effort is exerted...and they have admitted as much publicly.July 5, 2023 at 10:19 PM #1994193Very interesting! If I understand you correctly, you're saying since everybody is using the same tools, they're pretty much the same models? And some vendors just input the models, wrap it up, and ship them like that while others will input the efforts to fix it up and make it more compatible (for daz in that case).
In this optic, we should try and list them all and rate them!
Or is there another character other than Jill that have been done by everybody? I'm thinking the other RE girl whats her name Claire Redfield? Whats the character that has the most daz port by the most 3d artists?
July 6, 2023 at 4:01 AM #1994231Wrap3d or zWrap (ZBrush version of wrap3d) are the tools most use to do game model conversions. You can get the textures converted through these apps, as well. Some/many, lol, will run the game model through wrap, get their conversion and call it done. Others will take the time to enhance the textures. Remember that a 512 game texture resized to 4k is still a 512 texture in quality. Many will just do the converting & resizing with ZERO adjustments (I'm looking at you 3duk) leaving a trashy texture. Then there is accompanying clothing...did they bother to detriangulate the mesh?...weld the points?...smooth the mesh? (again, looking at you 3duk) or did they just get the shape just about right and walk away?
Think of it this way. You have 10 people all given the same ingredients and the same recipe for a chocolate cake. You are going to get 10 chocolate cakes. All very similar. But the quality will vary based on skill and care. Same basic premise.
There are several properties that have been flooded with several different version...
Resident Evil
Street Fighter
Injustice
Mortal Kombat
The Witcher
Call of duty
Tomb Raider
That's just a few...many others have been tapped. There are several characters in each of those franchises that have multiple "versions" of a single character. Ada Wong, Leon Kennedy, Jill Valentine, Wonder Woman, Lara Croft, Chun Li...The list could go on for a while, lol.July 6, 2023 at 7:56 AM #1994259I like to see different takes on the same character.
Mxyzptlk is correct that some vendors are more skilled & / or take more time & care with their output.
Which is best, ultimately comes down to your personal perception & preferences.
For instance, I am sure some folk might be drawn to a stylised character & overlook other shortcomings with it because they like the body shape.
July 6, 2023 at 8:58 PM #1994553love the cake analogy, you're so right.
July 7, 2023 at 8:45 AM #1994836I would add that nothing stops you to mix and match stuff from different vendors. Sometimes the head will be good on one but body looking better from another vendor. Same for hair, clothes, etc
July 7, 2023 at 9:08 AM #1994860You can't beat a good kit bash! 🙂
July 8, 2023 at 2:42 AM #1995110Also true, but about the jills!
https://www.renderhub.com/marcosgab/mgab-sasha-for-genesis-9
This is MGAB Sasha for Genesis 9, this is a beautiful woman created by me and my wife as a tribute for Sasha Zotova model who played Jill Valentine in the game RE3R. It was made using Hexagon 2.5, Zbrush and PhotoShop CS21.
She is a beautiful woman and I hope you enjoy to create your art with her.MGAB Sasha, is that a Jill too ? Where is it on the scale of Jills? Is that a man?
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