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@Frank21 me too, i've got a lot of posts deleted when tried to point "the issues" of g9 after the realease, they didn't allowed any criticize of it during the first days of release >.>, g9 body is horrible, its a poor imitation of metahuman, what make metahuman "less worst" is which it comes with a lot of "corrective morphs and extra bones for all bad joints, this mate metahuman bend better than g9, they know the topology was crap then they compensated it with a lot of "corrective stuffs" to hide the bad poly count, while daz didn't it it at last good as metahuman.
Also Another issue which i have with g9 is which somehow most of the outfits done for g9 are "higfh poly making it more clear which was made for renders, most of the outftis are done by artits which love to go "high" to make outftis for render and not game or something else, then some outfits ending easy having 300k polygons+ which is crazy, you have some of the artits more "moderated and" more game friendly, but they stuffs somehow are minory compared with the ones doing the "high poly stuff".
exactly that is one of my big issues with g9 hist topology, wich also means body density is so bad around the torso, it's so low poly compared with previous genesis, which make hard to make really good female charcters male not so bad, while the head and specially face got a really good increase in polygons give more diversity, in body it was like metahuman which is what make metahumans in many cases also so bad, because of those androgenous body, from a biologic point of ivew male and female peoples are too different to be proper handled by a androgenous body, that is why i liked both g3 and g8 because you have a proper male and female bodies, both being proper adressed in a good way, another big issue is how "ugly" is the base female body and in some point male, she barelly looks like a woman compared with g8 female.
i gonna say i i'm on the wagon of peples which dislike the g9, it for me was a downgrade and insult to the customers, , like to make the character more like "metahuman' they removed the daz character own topology and go for a full homogeneous quadr, which helped to make a more genderless body. but it also removed many details, like "nipples and navel to be sold a part as one of the most scum actions for me so far, it started with the gens from v4 to genesis, then now on g9 they removed nipples and navel to be "sold stand alone and grab more money', what gonna be in the future?, you will have only the head and have to buy each part of the body????, while i did expend a ton of money on daz from v4 to genesis 8 specially gen8 and gen 8.1, i really didn't use a single g9 stuff, because i really hated what they did on that.
