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  • #1781978
    Frank21
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    Some observations - Some filled requests get posted to the blog very quickly after they're filled. The 2022-03 Hair went up only a few days after being filled. I don't care one bit about paying 1000pts for it instead of 50 because that's much better than withholding it from the community.
    I think perhaps the reason is that things get leached to other sites so quickly, if you're after points for it, it's better to get it up on the blog ASAP before they do.
    Personally I don't see any reasoning behind filling a request and never posting it. I suppose people have their own reasons for doing that, and I respect that decision for whatever reason they have. "I have no desire to make windows into men's souls," Liz 1.
    The site rules say-
    Once a request has been filled, the asset supplied should ideally be publicly posted within one week. After that, any member is free to post said item.
    But being a generally polite person, if the filler says don't repost it, I won't.

    #1782013
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    Rank: Rank-1

    Just about every request that is filled (to me) comes with the added disclaimer citing the rules

    In keeping with the site’s TOS, I have the right to ask those I give my files to, not to post them on the
    ZoneGFX pages, public pages or on other share sites. This file is for your private enjoyment and use,
    not for the rest of the world yet, I will post it after a time myself to ZoneGFX.
    Any questions about this feel free to contact Hunter, Monk, AnjaBear, or Eelgoo, the moderators.

    The thing is, the rules also state:

    Once a request has been filled, the asset supplied should ideally be publicly posted within one week.
    After that, any member is free to post said item.

    So basically, the rules are
    If you get your bounty filled, don't post it for a week. After that, it is fair game.

    As AnjaBear stated above, its amazing how quickly stuff that is posted here, gets reposted on ALL the other sites.

    But the road can go both ways, especially with older stuff that has dead links here *wink*

    I'd encourage anyone with surplus points to jump in and help out others with bounties... I'll add points to things I know I won't use, just to help grease the skids of a system that is, by and large, working nicely.

    #1782019
    eelgoo
    Moderator
    Rank: Rank 7

    ' Having rules you dont enforce is kinda pointless.

    Want to enforce it? Have all filled post have to be sent to a Mod address linked in the top of every request. If the filler doesnt post it in 2 weeks then the Mod posts it. Seems kinda easy to me. If they dont send it to the Mod then reset thier points totals or turn DLs off till they link it. '

    Mods don't get the links & it would be problematic if not totally non-viable to get them.
    The last thing you need is to reduce the amount of stuff available & that would likely effectively do that.
    We are doing our best to encourage sharing, not wielding a big stick over it.

    #1782127
    ADAM
    Participant
    Rank: Rank-1

    Mods do offer points for content, so they do get those links. (Do those eventually get posted if they dont go public?)
    Do Mods verify posted links work? If so they get that content.(free?)
    Not sure why adding one MOD link PM to your list of PMs to would crash the system. Then again Ive never been a mod so I've little no idea what is required.

    At the top of every request should be a bounty SHARING bonus. +1000 PM This Mod. This way you get paid and the link gets shared either by the uploader or the Mod 2 weeks from the share date.


    @Eelgoo

    Its my understanding that there are people that specifically send Mods content and ask the Mods to post it because they do not want it linked to them. Perhaps that was one reason for delayed releases. I do not understand why sending a Mod a link to release 2 weeks from the upload date would effect shares. This is a share site? Sharing is encourage right?
    Would it be better to just fill all bounties behind closed doors and not post them publicly at all? There might be less leaching if sites had to request every upload. Why Close a request thread if the requests never gets posted publicly? Leave it open so people that come here a year from now can ask for it. Not like we dont get members every day wanting old content.


    @Ethiopia

    Agree. Especially when I am sure most of their content comes from here to begin with.
    They dont mind coming here to scrounge but they hate it when exclusive content finds it way to the Zone.

    @longtimemember?
    Why all of a sudden is this a problem? Perhaps I lost my memory but, I can not recall this being an issue years ago. Maybe a long time member can refresh my memory.

    #1782198
    eelgoo
    Moderator
    Rank: Rank 7

    @d0gg0d

    Relatively few items to my knowledge are posted for other members.
    The majority post their own.
    The heirarchy for posting rights is stated in the rules sticky.

    Threads are closed after fulfilment to encourage the donor to post publicly.
    Otherwise there is a tendency to hold out posting publicly for more latecomers bounties.

    🙂

    #1782225
    ADAM
    Participant
    Rank: Rank-1

    Otherwise, there is a tendency to hold out posting publicly for more latecomers bounties.

    Thats what the 2 week grace period is for I would hope? feasibly it may not get posted for 6 months or a year. So even thought the post is closed they are still holding out for points correct? Seeing as how they prohibit others SHARING the share.

    I am fixing to open a request for a character that was shared in Mid-December that I couldnt find posted but was filled. I cant remember if I put a bounty on it. Multiple request threads suck btw. Very confusing, at least for me.

    Looks like you got a copy of it. You could post it since the time has expired on it.

    I’ll put 500 points in for Eva Valentina.

    No PM No Points.

    Fulfilled. Many thanks.

    If you, we, us, everyone... really wants to encourage sharing and public uploads, what would you recommend? @Eelgoo

    #1782229
    eelgoo
    Moderator
    Rank: Rank 7

    '2 week grace'

    It is actually a week, but it isn't specifically for that.
    It is more to mask the origin of the file purchaser.

    'Seeing as how they prohibit others SHARING the share.'

    Yes, as a KAT refugee I have never really been fully on board with that one. :0/

    ' If you, we, us, everyone… really wants to encourage sharing and public uploads, what would you recommend? '

    Well, if not the letter, at least following the spirit of the rules?

    #1782231
    eelgoo
    Moderator
    Rank: Rank 7

    Eva Valentina?

    Which vendor was that?

    🙂

    #1782244
    ADAM
    Participant
    Rank: Rank-1

    @Eelgoo
    https://www.daz3d.com/eva-valentina-hd-for-genesis-81-femaleI guess I need to brush up on the rules as well. could have sworn it was 2 weeks. Id have lost money

    #1782310
    Dick
    Participant
    Rank: Rank-1

    It's a good idea to add a share to the blog bonus. Especially since on the blog section you only get half the points.

    #1782319
    eelgoo
    Moderator
    Rank: Rank 7

    @d0gg0d OK I'll have a word with the donor & try to get something sorted out on that.

    🙂

    #1782408
    ADAM
    Participant
    Rank: Rank-1

    @Dick

    Not sure why it's an issue. Over time I've gotten way more points by posting than sitting on it. Use to be I gave points away I had so much. You post a couple desired products you'll have more points than you can spend. I downloaded the complete site in a few days.

    #1782860
    Dimer
    Participant
    Rank: Rank 6

    Yeah, I've posted a bunch of things and filled requests and I have more points than I know what to do with.

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