(DISCUSSION) Daz3D and Male Neglect in 3D

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    SkippyTheMeh
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    Speaking from experience, male based products DON’T sell. When I was selling products, they were all male based. My income only partially supported my hobby, it never came close to being something that would put food on the table. People want “F*ck me” poses for Vicky in 1,000s of variations. They want lingerie, also in 1,000s of variations. They want hi heeled barely there battle outfits for females.

    This is my experience with 3d Printed figs. The market for male figures is a niche inside a niche inside a niche market. On the store I use to sell, there's maybe 50 other 'artists' making figures and 99.9% of those are naked girls. I'm one of the very, very very few who make solo male figures and they Do. Not. Sell. I've made approximately 300 sales so far this month, and out of those sales, 10 were for male figures. If I was doing this to put food on the table rather than as a way to fund my other hobbies, it would make zero sense for me to spend time making male figures I know won't sell enough to cover the cost of my time. Hell, even the free male figures I've uploaded are downloaded far less often than the girly figs I charge for!

    People always say 'but look at the forums, we're begging for male items!' but for every person asking for male items there's ten times that number that aren't and even more that never visit the forums and are perfectly happy buying all the sexy female outfits or cute fairies they can get their hands on. Those customers don't want or care about male products and those customers are the ones paying the creator's bills. It's the internet echo chamber in full effect; ten people being vocal about wanting male products might make it look like any creator would make bank if only they started making male stuff, but the reality is that it's just ten people who have self-selected by joining in the conversation and the hundreds of other forums members could not give a toss about it.

    I've been using Poser and then DS since the early 2000's. That's twenty years and I've been hearing the same arguments for all of that time, as have the product creators. I'm sure that if male products sold there would be a hell of a lot more creators making them. The fact that there isn't makes it obvious that they don't. It sucks, but that's just the way it is; this is a male-dominated (niche) hobby and the vast majority of men want to look at pretty girls, not guys. Unless and until the user-base changes to be more representative of the population (and their sexual preferences), nothing will change.

    #1761985
    Grouchy Old Fart
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    @anahita:

    regarding: "I wonder why they don’t do breasts as separate prop"

    They actually do: https://zonegfx.com/breastacular-for-genesis-8-female/

    (they also have them for G3, and they have gigatons of accessories, freak-level modifications, and etc.)

    #1762168
    SeyyedehAnahita
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    I have Breastacular but I didn't liked it because it is mostly futa I like non futa things like as real life ones

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    Fragman
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    Breastacular Can be used for none futa i dont make futa stuff and i still use Breastacular due to the collision

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    SkippyTheMeh
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    HD Nipples 2 also does collisions apparently, although I've not used it yet.

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