- This topic has 12 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated 1 week, 2 days ago by
.
-
Posts
-
I have quite a backlog of unique assets to share, and had some time to begin uploading again.
After filling out the first form, I got harassed by this cute little popup:
https://prnt.sc/fLNaM2-CZQ1XNOPE.
Firstly, bunkr.ru is kaput.
https://prnt.sc/AdfYwSKH6Gm-
Besides, Bunkr images are deleted 30 days after last view.Second, imagehostx.com has max 3 years retention. Says so right in the FAQ.
Third, jpg4.su redirects to jpg5.su, and is hosted on 3rd-party blogware. JPGFish has always been hot garbage, and if you need proof it's in the fact their TOS page is their host's boilerplate telling you how to set up pages!
https://prnt.sc/jT2fUtweMcFR
No mention of retention and I know from experience they lose things.Seriously, I will not make posts that are doomed to have missing images, and it's unreasonable to check hundreds of posts every year, month, week?! to see if one needs re-uploading and updating, and it's not admin's job to constantly update our broken image links either. They have enough work to do that's actually the site's business (thanks again for all you do!).
WHY is imgur not being allowed now? It's literally the only service beside catbox.moe that has guaranteed permanent retention, and is not blocked by ISPs and such (like catbox sometimes is). I've used imgur for 15 years now and have never had One. Single Image. go missing. ImageShack went shite years ago, and Photophuckit has always been a bandwidth-capped slimeball guaranteed to eat your images.
I appreciate the progress that's been made in the upload UI here over the years, it's much better than it used to be, and would be damn near perfect if it weren't for this peccadillo.
I won't upload until I know I can provide a product image that won't go missing. I hate when I find such posts, and I won't provide such posts. It's not like 404 images "are beyond anyone's control", it is; you simply use the host(s) with a proven track record of retention.
That's all I got, thanks for coming to my TED rant.
This is the one I use.
So then you're saying you'll make sure that when anyone's images inevitably go to the Void, you'll restore them? (o_e )
If I'm gonna be forced to use an impermanent host, is there a mechanism for product images to be user-edited like download links can?
Or, I could just use imgur and avoid the extra bullshat.
I'm genuinely interested, why the cold shoulder for this host? NGL, I know the community is toxic af, but you never make your images public and you never have to deal with them. Make your maymays public if that's your love, but keep your srs stuff private.Bunkr and JPG5 are not kaput. They need to change their domains constantly because 90% of the OnlyFans rips are stored there, so they are always at war. You can access Bunkr here (https://bunkr.site/). Obviously, when the domain changes, the pictures' URL will change too, they kinda fixed this problem with the images now, but its still not a perfect solution.
Like eelgoo said, use this site (https://new.imagehostx.com/upload.php) as it's kinda connected to ZGFX and it's the easiest to use atm and it doesn't need to change its domain name every now and then.
We use these selected sites, because the blacklisted sites, just like imgur, will remove your uploaded image without any question on the vendors' first report (DMCA).
Well we don't do NSFW here or anything objectionable, and that really only applies to public gallery images; private images that nobody can see cannot be flagged there. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
And when has a vendor ever gotten an image removed from imgur? I have like 200 uploads here over 8 years, and every single image still exists, in spite of the fact a number of these uploads have been removed (and re-upped, using the same image link lol). Authors target the download link (my MEGAs, in this case), not the image host. Again, not public images, not flaggable through their system, and White Knight is not doing extra steps to deal with site support if the content link can be shot. And think about it... if the image were removed for that reason, the whole post would have been, so this is irrelevant.
It's kinda like shaving off the hair just to be sure chopping off the head worked.
So limiting usage to shitty service providers in exchange for avoidance of a non-issue is kinda bonkers. Having your links go down every few months because your provider is doing the Nasty Race is ensuring a craptastic presentation experience here IMHO. Ensuring more "image not found" posts makes Zone less, not more, awesome to use. It makes more sense to simply go with what Simply Just Works.And I reiterate, when the links inevitably break using these blargh hosts, who gets to fix it all? Where do I buy a magic wand? When can I edit my image links?
Anyway, doing a bit of research, imgbox seems to fit the bill perfectly. There is no public gallery or search, it's entirely for forum hosting.
https://imgbox.com/helpimgbox is a free service with more than 7 years of history, empowering people to upload, share and enjoy images online.
Hosting millions of files requires massive resources and it simply became too big for our previous hosting platform to handle.
We are pleased to announce we have partnered with a new team that have extensive experience in large-scale hosting, our new gen hardware enables us to continue to provide the high standard of service that you are used to, while preparing us for many billions of files into the future.
Sincerely,
The Team
✓ Hotlinking
✓ Super blazing fast
✓ 10MB maximum file size
✓ Simple interface
✓ Unlimited storage space
✓ Unlimited storage timeInternet Archive (Wayback Machine)
With registration, you can upload to the public images collection. The caveat for permanent archiving is that it's not just "click a button", you need to manually add some metadata when uploading. Minor annoyance but it takes 2 seconds. Example I just uploaded:
https://archive.org/download/thiago-oliveira-final-01/thiago-oliveira-final-01.jpg
Alternately, as Anon you could simply capture the original URL, and link to the image on the archived webpage, but not all URLs allow archiving; Internet Archive respects robots.txt always.bad: postimage has ostensibly permanent retention, but there are no accounts so all uploads are anonymous and therefore largely out of user's control ( you can delete your own image, but you need to retain the original upload page for the deletion link). We have seen a number of images go missing for unknown reasons which cannot be attributed to image or account deletion by the user. This example is only 18 months old:
As far as hosts not yet mentioned, most other well known hosts only offer permanent retention or large storage with paid accounts. The lesser know are either here-today-gone-tomorrow or have activity-based retention and/or bandwidth caps.
@amberkat it should be pretty obvious that sites like imgur doesn't want to be associated with hosting images for a site like this. Not to mention you're only going to open a lot of users being reported if enough info is gathered about them while using sites like imgur. They also have teams that are pretty active and will love to help catch content pirates.
If that's not clear enough. The below quote is within their site TOS.
If you do – and we will be the judge – or if you do anything illegal, in addition to any other legal rights we may have, we will ban you along with the site you're hotlinking from, delete all your images, report you to the authorities if necessary, and prevent you from viewing any images hosted on Imgur.com. We mean it.
Plus imagehostx is stupid easy to use. Why change up things when something is already in place and works well?
OK, taking imgur off the table for a bit (though that blurb is pretty much out of context)
AGAIN I reiterate imagehostx WILL delete your image after 36months.
Kinda wondering if anyone is actually reading what I'm writing.
I suppose on-site image storage is out of the question. If promo image size was restricted to say 512x512 (~100kb) it wouldn't use too much storage?
Yeah, it would be a bad thing to host actual resources. The site wouldn't last long if it did. Zone passes the images through to the user (hotlink) and the download button sends the user to the resource link.
Having thought of this a bit earlier, it seems to me a better way to protect the resources AND the site AND the users would be to employ a secure token passthrough. No user would be able to know from where the resources originate, and Zone is absolved of any data hosting conflicts, keeping in the clear as it is now.
It would also erase any concerns of image and file hosts retaliating against Zone because the proxy engine separates the parties. It could be distributed as well for robustness.
I'm working on a sample of a secure, contactless proxy delivery system right now. In PHP it's actually pretty straightforward, though I haven't worked out if the script should run from Zone's server, or on a 3rd-party server.
Once I get something up and running I suppose I'll just throw it up on GitHub. Or not. It's not like anyone cares about OpSec. :pFYI the 3 year delete warning is just part of the "template front page", the new.imagehostx stores the images till it won't runs out of free space. And statistically, the download links in the posts will die sooner.
Interesting to know, but as wikipedia says, [citation needed]
I take what I read from providers at face value.Anyway, still working on a no-touch solution regardless in the hopes that it may be useful.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
