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So NVidia changed Iray in ways that DS4 cannot render on RTX5000 anymore. Killer. So right now I hear either they fix DS4 which means rip all the code apart change so much of its DNA it's not funny anymore or they get DS5 going, and we all know how likely that's gonna happen.
The death of Daz?I thought it's because Nvidia has decided to end Iray with Omniverse so didn't bother to build backward compatibility into RTX5000 driver. Daz is already moving toward Omniverse with Omnishader present in 4.23. They can just do a 4.24 with Omniverse rendering added which could mean DS5 is not going to see daylight until RTX6xxx is readily available in stock. 2027?
"DS5 is not going to see daylight until RTX6xxx is readily available in stock. 2027?"
Hahaha. That's funny. There's never going to be a DS5. It's a running joke at this point. One would think DAZ/Tafi would just call one of their next point releases "Studio 5" just to get that monkey off their back.
That was one of the reasons I decided on buying a RTX 4070 graphic card instead of a RTX 5070 series. Saw something on the daz forums about it last month.
No DS5 until 2027!!!! [actually I agree with @ulysses and couldn't care less]
I started using Poser with a GTX 960 and it was fine for years. My RTX 4070 is supposed to be 590% better, but my art certainly isn't
.I won't be upgrading my 3090 and have a refurbished one that I am currently using since I know the "new" one I bought works flawlessly and the new one is what I use for gaming while my refurbished one runs iray server.
I upgraded my 10 year old i5-6600k to a much nicer system with a 1600W PSU running an ASUS ROIG Strix MOBO with 96 GB DDR5 memory and an i7-14700KF. I don't plan to upgrade until 6XXX. If They never update Iray again and just dispose of it I guess DAZ will find another engine. I'll stick with whatever is the latest one that runs iRay at that point since I still have not, and do not intend to, update to Genesis 9.
I'm currently studying importing daz figures into blender, configuring daz shaders for cycles, and positing and animating features. And so far, it looks like a more productive pipeline, given the endless sculpting possibilities, a normal timeline, and probably a more modern render engine. Previously, I was stopped by the reluctance to mess with the shader settings, but in fact it turned out to be easier than configuring the shader in the Daz. I have yet to test the hairs. And if I can figure them out, I'll probably forget about the Iray.
I only do laptops, because I like to toss everything into the RV once in awhile and really work remote, so take the following with a grain of salt:
My previous rig used a Core i7, 32GB RAM, and a RTX 2070 (which still works well enough, but at 5 years old, it was getting real long in the tooth. I just flushed and reset it to factory, and will most likely donate it, or turn it into a test box for work.)
When I did a refresh back in January, I went with an AMD Ryzen 7 8845, 64GB RAM, and an RTX 4050 crammed into an MSI Katana laptop frame - mostly because it provided the best bang for the buck.
Comparing the performance, I cut my render times down by 60-80%, which was HUGE - at least for me anyway.
Not sure where DAZ is going, but if need be, I can keep my new rig frozen in time insofar as drivers and DAZ Studio installed version is concerned.
**''**NVIDIA has confirmed that support for Blackwell architecture GPUs begins with Iray 2024.1.0. The RTX 50 series are therefore not supported by earlier Iray versions like the one used in DAZ, which is Iray 2023.1.4**''**
but don't worry, they are already working on it at DAZ ...
"but don't worry, they are already working on it at DAZ .."
Just, please don't say it is part of the DS5 release...
I'm with Grouchy on this..
Until I am permanently back in the UK all I have is laptops.I was thinking of a 50' series desktop to be ready for when back, but the Iray issue sinks it for now.
My recent compromise was to treat myself to a new laptop [adding to my collection of 'retired' ones] and moving the most recent - a 3080 system - to media use.
So, until issues are resolved I am now on an Alienware M18 R2 - 18" QHD
RTX 4090 16GB GDDR6
14th Gen Raptor Lake Refresh i9-14900HX 24 Core - 32 Thread
96 GB Dual Channel DDR5 5600MHz
4 TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Gen4 SSD Slot 1
4 TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Gen4 SSD Slot 2Still only 16GB - as the 3080 was - but should have a bit more 'bang-for-buck'.
I've always had a sneaking suspicion that "DS5" means they are going to rewrite the codebase on top of Qt 5.
Qt is currently in v6.8 LTS, with much of 5 deprecated and some removed. Par for the course, Daz is always at best 20 years behind the curve. Daz is still based on Qt 4.20, released in 2005.
If you leverage the available Qt6 components, you could completely recreate Daz without having to modify your own widgets. And I'm damn sure it would be 1000% more efficient and bloat-free. But they'll never do it, and they'll never use a real scripting language in lieu of that cockamamie DazScript.
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