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  • #2183607
    Zaba
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    I'd saved up to buy a better computer, I had windows 7 but the graphics card wasn't very good. To be clear, I use the computer only to run 3D software, so I'd asked that the new computer would have as few Windows components as possible. 2 days ago I started it up for the first time. First off, the layout of the folders looks the same as windows 7. But that's it. The right click menu is huge. To install a program it tells me I need to be logged on as Admin, I already am. No matter what I try, it will not open any Keygen. The Start menu keeps adding any file or folder I open. Within a very short time there was a mountain of temporary files. I read a while back that there were 5 versions of Windows that were withdrawn after a short time, remember Vista? I can't understand why developers feel the urge to over complicate things. Is Windows 11 likely to be another failure? The thing that really bugs me is that it is impossible to keep using older proven versions of Windows. To me Windows 7 was way easier and faster to navigate.

    #2183608
    Josie
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    I use windows 10 Ghostspectre version which can lock out all the annoying features and prevent any snooping you get with a stock version. They also have a Windows 11 version. Since it's a custom version, there is an option during install whether to enable dotNET 4 or not, and in order for dotNET 4 to work it has to be enabled then or it won't be possible to install it later because it's a special slimmed down version of dotNET 4 that closes all back doors completely. Some games and mods require it, and so do some 3rd party softwares that might be useful for people doing work with 3d programs.

    If this interests you and you want to eliminate all the BS to get a better windows experience, then open the description below the video on YT and the link for downloading 11 is listed.

    Here's the Windows 10 superlight AIO and same thing. Download is in the description.

    #2183609
    Josie
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    I also Dual Boot to Linux Mint which can be very handy when you have issues with windows and need to fix something at the folder level. That's another option for an OS with less headaches but it can have a higher learning curve so consider carefully before committing.

    https://linuxmint.com/

    #2183610
    bababoya007
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    Speaking only on my own experience, my pc isn't quite new, 11th gen intel with 16gb ram*4, rtx3070. I upgraded it to windows 11 few years ago just out of curiosity (mainly dumbness I guess) from win10, ran into so many issues that didn't exist before, general feeling laggy, bullshit built-in ai ads, frame drops on gaming etc. And later on it started to affect my work, my pc keeping crashing with blue screen while I was working, it was saying something about ram error or something and I just couldn't get it fixed, later it almost crashed 2 times a week and it was getting worse everytime the system updated or the nvidia driver updated. At last I just couldn't, spent 3 days put everything on hold, backup everything, and did a complete erase and back to windows 10.
    Never run into any crashes on my pc from then.
    My Conclusion: Windows 11 is TRASH

    #2183612
    Ethiopia
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    I use Windows 10 'Ameliorated'. It's a hacked version with all the crap ripped out. There's numerous hacked releases of Windows 10 and 11 that are much faster. There's also several 'Decrappifiers' that rip out or disable window's overhead junk.
    A source I use often is Ten Forums (https://www.tenforums.com/ ). There's also a Win 7 and Win 11 forum from the same folks.
    The gamer community is usually the first folks on top of all this as they need the speed and power and won't allow anyone to get in the way of slowing down their framerates.

    #2183614
    Zaba
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    @josiebethlewis2019 Hiya Josie, thank you for your advice, I will look carefully at the links you sent. I've worked on computers for many years but now I don't have much level of concentration, stupidly I got old. There is a level where the computer will be 'good enough', I hope I can get there. If I can learn more about Windows 11 I'm sure I can cope, but because I spent what I'd got on this computer I can't afford to screw up. Just a huge disappointment.


    @bababoya007
    , I think the AI ads should be scrubbed. I tried AI but I can work better with programs I own and understand and I don't ever want to pay subscriptions. It bugs me that years back I hadn't got money for a good computer, now I have one that is better than I thought possible I have a screwed up operating system.

    #2183615
    Josie
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    Yeah, I would definitely downgrade to a custom "hacked" Windows 10 version. No AI, and you can shut off all the annoying "tips", and other invasive stuff right out of the box. Whatever is still lingering can be eliminated with this tool.

    https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

    #2183627
    InverseKinematics
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    11 is easy to tame if you know how. 10 was easy. I no longer allow the beast to update. All privacy settings are on (If that means anything) I liked 10 but it was slower compared to 11. I didn't want to take the plunge but did it anyway. Am I happy?....I barely notice any difference.
    It's just a tool to be used.


    @josiebethlewis2019
    . 0&0 Shutup has the ability to disable Windows AI but fails at turning on all privacy settings as it used to do. I think Microslop may have blocked 0&0 making those registry changes, but they can still be done manually.

    #2183666
    Josie
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    I have an older version of it and you can still block everything MS wants to do with your PC. But yeah, turning off updates is critical because if you don't, they will simply override your choices to not have your privacy violated with updates. And even then they will still try to force updates until it's rejected for so long the updates don't work any more. And with some of these custom hacked distros, they do provide patches and updates from the developers that shore up your installation even more so that it eventually closes all the doors for MS to exploit completely. Then things will be pretty quiet. You might get a few junk files that you should delete, but not much else. I think they try to do that just in case someone is dumb enough to try applying the last whimper of an update they try to sneak in. But if you have Updates shut off completely in services, you can just clean it out.

    #2183739
    InverseKinematics
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    @josiebethlewis2019

    I agree. Just to add to this. Bleachbit is another must if you want to keep your OS clutter free and all your moves going back to Microslop central.

    #2183757
    ulysses
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    The only way to shut off MS from spying on you if you're using Windows 10 or 11 is to disconnect from the internet. It has a keystroke logger that is built into the kernel and can not be shut off. You can disable the function that this logger is supposed to be there for (helping you by predictively suggesting text as you type), but the core function is still turned on and supposedly logging every keystroke. That's what I've been told by a government law enforcement friend. Whether windows is routinely sending the logs back to their mothership is something he didn't say.

    #2183780
    eva
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    I have windows 11 and i am not having any issues with it. My son uses windows pro and he does not have any issues with his pc.

    #2183781
    Lazodo
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    I made the switch to Linux over a year ago and I have not turned back. Don't need windows. Just a parasite.

    #2183782
    Zaba
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    Hiya Eva @evangeline, I spent a lot of money on a new computer, I'm very pleased with it, I bought it in the hope it would last a long time. I'm very sad to find Windows 11 isn't very easy to use. I spend a lot of my time working on 3D items, most of the time I use stand alone programs. That means I can turn off most of the Windows components, I probably have only ever used Notepad and the picture viewer. I just wanted to buy a good computer with good graphics so I could move onto hopefully better programs like Blender.
    I use Firefox for the internet, on the old computer I used Avast security. Now I've got things that I can't shut off. The main problem is what to do next. I could wait until the next version of Windows. I could go back to the shop and see if they can put Windows 10 on this new computer. As it was expensive and still under warranty I can't do much with it. But choices are limited. There are only Microsoft Windows operating systems. Microsoft decides when it wants to cease support. It has the monopoly. What Windows 11 actually is in terms of improvement on earlier systems I don't know. The NT files and a lot of files that were developed for Windows XP are still there. But there are tracking devices that cannot be turned off. So the problem can be seen as a huge waste of resources/memory. This is at a critical level on some computers when updating, the security causes spikes.
    Because my new computer has a high spec, the load on memory isn't an issue. The issue is privacy, I'm not sure who can see data from my computer. This would include my passwords. Including this one. My guess, it's only a guess is they are trying to bring computers inline with the ''know your customer'' system now on mobile phones. If you go to Google and look for Wiki pages there are quite a few interesting points. If you look for debates about Windows 11 the main moan is the ''right click menu''. So my option here looks like being buying a cheap computer just to go on the internet and using this new computer entirely offline. On every other computer I've had I can load and use Poser 6 and any other 32 bit programs no problem. The screen jitters now like an earthquake at the end of the world when I try to open Poser 6. I can't open a Keygen, it is possible to turn off the security but there isn't a set time when it might turn back on again. Oddly, if I don't load .Exe files onto the computer and use them straight from a pen drive they work fine. Because I do a lot of editing I open and close a lot of files. This all needs cleaning up, the temp files were deleted by Ccleaner in the past. I'm advised not to use it now, so I used the Windows Disk Cleanup. This told me I'd got 19mb of temp internet files. I clicked ''view files'', nothing showed up. This might be an error or they are hidden. Odd, because I'd not opened anything with the Windows browser and Firefox is set to delete everything on shutdown. There is the hope that if Microsoft gets enough complaints there might be an update. Can't wait. ''Thank-you'' to everyone for their replies I hope this post might help anyone considering an upgrade.

    #2183790
    eva
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    if you go into C drive and look for the temp files open that and empty it. I use Firefox and bit denfender as well as malware bites both in my browser.
    if there is something that you do not want on there go into add or remove programs then go into the registry and delete them there.

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