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Hello all and sorry @ethiopia for tagging you like that but you've been arousing my curiosity long enough 🙂
I started using DAZ and joined the community back when KAT still existed. Genesis 2 was already born and even if Stephanie 5 and all her siblings were still around, I never quite went back in time and never downgraded my models generation, thinking higher generation models were obviously better. I now know better but that's not my point here.
There are countless posts on this forum where you (and a few others - yes @eelgoo, I'm talking about you lol) praise the merits of Vicky 4.2++ and her collection of skin enhancements, huge clothes and props library and so on. The last time was 3 days ago in response to Fred saying there was not much worth downloading lately (yes, I'm a diligent reader even if not a frequent poster).
So my question is as follows: where should I start if I wanted to give her a go? A search on the forum here gives some hits with "Vicky 4" and I'm wondering if when you say "Vicky" you mean "Victoria". And if you do, is "Victoria 4.2" that one model you praise so much or is there another enhanced version around specifically called "++" to add on top of her?
By now you see my dilemma: hundreds of links and no clue where to start.
I was hoping you could maybe point me in the right direction 🙂
I wish you all a good week-end and hope this message will find you in good health and shape!
Math
(Ethiopia rubs his hands together and starts digging into his hard drive.)
Hiya Matt. Give me a while to come up with a list. I'm in the middle of a busy weekend with kids and grandkids. It's the Canada Day weekend (July 1st) so we're going a bit nuts.Typing is slow because my good hand is like a huge sausage with fingers that resemble hot dogs. All thanks to some white faced hornets beside the garage door. Got that bastards back Thursday night by foaming their hive! It's so satisfying to stick the wand into the opening and spray. The stuff is like shaving cream and fills even a large hive in seconds. They scramble out, writhing in their death throes, covered in toxic foam as they fall to the ground. There had to be a hundred of them.
I'm guessing that would be the Victoria 4.2 base with the 4.2 shapes ++.
Both included in the Victoria 4.2 starter bundle.It's a somewhat stylized figure compared to normal Genesis and there are a huge amount of nice clothes and accessories available.
If the Victoria 4.2 pro bundle is available here you should start with that.Cheers!
Vicky (V4.2) was (is?) the longest lived figure and saw a ton of improvements over the years. She culminated for Studio in V4.2++ There's numerous fixes for her bending issues, many of which are included in the latest version.
TBH I am more of a fan of the V4 clothes & hair than the model herself.
That said, there are quite a few top tier characters that I would like to see ported over to G8F.
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If you do go down that V4 path @Mathmathou, a character I've always liked is Erogenesis's Lali (R18), and her bits (also R18) if that's your thing.
I think it's the cosmopolitan character series. Some of the better/best textures.
Click on her then click and update them to Uber textures. GND and NGM morphs are nice. I just used a G8 dress on V4 with dforce. Will post her soon. I couldn't get v4 clothes to fit in daz without a great deal of effort so oddly g8 clothes worked better.@Ethiopia: no rush, a new workweek has just begun for me. Take care of your fingers and thanks for the foam tip, I’d never have thought about that (I usually use gasoline).
@wallyburger: thanks for the tip – I already have the Pro Bundle but I might re-download it just to make sure I have a late version instead of the old one sleeping on my hard drives
@eelgoo: the only clothing set I have tried so far for v4 is the regular V4.2 bodysuit (SKU 4829) and I was unable to find the texture in my library (neither DAZ nor Poser) - I’ll make sure to have a look at what’s available for her, thanks@franck22: I’ll certainly go down the V4 path because I’ve read too much about it to not give it a try. As for your kinky links, I’ll probably give it a try to 🙂
@d0gg0d: I’ll remember that when I’ll give her a try, thanks (I'm just pretending here, I have no clue what you are talking about 🙂 )
@abad: after seeing that picture, that definitely convinced me that I had to give her a try 🙂Hi @mathmathou, Your post launched me into search and repair mode. My installed Poser stuff, which contains a lot of V4's stuff is over 90GB. The Studio formatted directory is even bigger at 1 TB (*gulp!*).
All the install files are on a NAS that died a few years ago and I haven't bothered to attempt recovery or repairs. This week I went through a bunch of sites, grabbed a bunch of hacked software and started attempting recovery. The NAS is seen but there's no files seen as it's a NAS controller fault. What I'm doing now is getting an expansion card that will let me plug all four drives from the NAS into it and the software ( https://www.runtime.org/index.html ) will rebuild the files from there....hopefully. My computer guy is back next week and I'll get the card then. That NAS also contains my massive Playboy collection, stuff I really miss. I can buy a new NAS that's the same as the old one but I'm not going to get the same shitty hardware (MediaSonic) again. Once I've gotten everything off of the drives, I'll just stick then in drive caddies and use them as backups.A couple or three years ago a few of us shared some large torrents of older Poser and Daz items. I have one (4.7 GB) that's mostly Renderosity stuff. I'll keep ya posted, maybe via PM in the server.
So...why Vicky Fourpointtwoplusplus? Some of it is familiartiy, I've been playing Poser and now Studio since the very first release of Poser. I have renders and saved scenes going back to Studio 1 (?). The other HUGE advantage for me is that back then, there where lots of artists, many independent of the main brokerages, making a huge and wide variety of clothes. While there was the expected collection of skimpwear, Sci-Fi and fantasy, there was a HUGE output of regular stuff. This included lingerie, shoes (Yum!), hosery (doubly yum!), formal wear and regular day clothes. Add the jewelry collection and hairstyles and you get a wardrobe that all of the Genesis bimbos together can't match. Every time a new Genesis figure is released we get the same old clothes all over again. The clothes themselves are better because they use morphs, not that gawd-awful D-Farce. Because Vicky's morphs don't ALL automatically load with her, she loads quick-as-a-bunny. I have a base Vicky with just the morphs I use then a bunch of base characters based on Vicky. Again, they all load instantly and even having a dozen characters loaded doesn't bog down my system. I make pretty involved interior scenes with lots of props and clothes so speed and responsiveness is important.
...and here comes the folks screaming about Vicky's bending problems.
Ya, I know, but there's lots of fixes for those and the last version of Vicky incorporated them all.
I don't do closeups so the 'improvements' of later generations don't matter to me. My characters are also almost always dressed and I don't tie them into knots.
Another point that a few of us have discussed in the past is that I'm not usually working towards a render. When I play, I'm mostly building scenes, adding and deleting props and clothes and changing poses. In effect, playing dolls. When I'm done (or it's bedtime) I set it to render. I always take lots of screenshots as I play and these are frequently good enough for me. I find that the process is more important (and more fun) than the end result. And I'm not the only one who works/plays that way. This, again, makes speed important. I use a few G3 and G8 characters for clothes that are specific to them but there's not much of that.
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