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  • #1977645
    Katz
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    Do you know of any sites with more rare/regularly updated new content is available?
    I wouldn't mind paying a monthly fee etc. if it meant getting newer content faster.

    #1977661
    Ethiopia
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    Rank: Rank-1

    All the paid sites (yes, ALL of them) get their content from here. They are sleazy sites mostly run by that trashbag Phfuongdzu (or something). You don't get to see what they have until you pay to join up, then you'll see that it's everything that's posted here. Even the old standbies is Russia like foxster are now leeching off of us.

    #1977664
    Katz
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    Rank: Rank-2

    Dang.
    I wonder if there are users who have a money pool going.
    Getting a new item for $1/$2 instead of $20 would be highly enticing.

    #1977673
    Bofadeez
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    Rank: Rank-2

    That is sort of what the points in the request section is meant to represent in an abstract manner. You acquire points by filling requests (i.e. by buying an item on the store) and posting them on the blog, and spread those acquired points across a dozen or more other requests, thereby significantly increasing the amount of content you acquire for your initial investment.

    #1977685
    Katz
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    Rank: Rank-2

    The points are rendered useless I feel, since you can go get the wild items from other sites.

    A new character comes out on say, RenderHub and you could be waiting months for someone to cave and purchase it and transfer it quietly.

    Has the zone ever considered a "premium" plan were subscription money is not used only to pay for servers but also to acquire newly released items which would not make it out to the wild on other sites so easily. They could have release time locks. Say 1-2 months after release for standard users.

    Could be cool. I'm sure it has been thought about and ultimately had too many downsides.

    #1977692
    ulysses
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    Rank: Rank 3

    I believe that charging people for content would put Hunter in a legal bind.

    EDIT: and there are private sharing sites out there where you have to provide new content to get new content. I'm pretty sure that this goes on here as well based on some IM's I've gotten from time to time. But you have to know about these private groups and then be invited.

    #1977705
    Bofadeez
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    Rank: Rank-2

    idk I don't think points are useless. You're not really acquiring points to buy from the blog (that's relatively little), but to incentivize request fillers. Blog posting is just the longtail effect.

    Also, yeah, you could go to one of the other sites and get stuff, but if you're already in the ZGFX environment it's not that hard to have enough points to buy anything your heart desires that gets posted publicly, and a lot of good stuff never makes it to the blog at all.

    Adding direct financial incentives is how the site would get shut down permanently in an instant.

    #1977718
    Ethiopia
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    Rank: Rank-1

    @zerodayjay,
    I feel that you're missing the idea behind this place. Years ago most piracy occurred on usenet and it was done out of a sense of sharing AND there was no money exchanged. As the usenet became less popular, torrents took over and again, folks shared freely without looking for compensation. A few pay sites popped up and kept popping up since they never lasted long. They where full of infighting as cliques formed over who wanted this or that and people felt that the operators where skimming the pot (they where) and then they fell apart. As soon as you introduce money or make something premium, the culture of open and friendly sharing goes down the toilet and the place goes all to hell. I've belonged to no end of sharing sites for porn and have seen this scenario play out every single time. Someone always has an agenda, someone's always looking to make a buck, someone always feels that they've been screwed over...it never stops.

    Many of us participated in KAT (KickAss Torrents) for years and it worked well until KAT was shut down.

    The reason this place has not just survived but flourished is that there's none of the bullshit money or premium crap that has proven itself to be a site killer. We've had our share of problems but we have always solved them with reasoned conversation. All the pay sites harvest EVERYTHING they have from here. They're too cheap and greedy to invest money in their site, instead they come here. We suspect that there's a few people here who offer huge bonuses (points) for items then stick them on a pay site and don't post the item here. This is something we have yet to solve, but it's not a huge problem.

    Hunter's use of the points system has been a brilliant idea that's made the place what it is.

    If you want stuff RIGHT NOW, then just buy it.

    #1977719
    Katz
    Participant
    Rank: Rank-2

    Fair points. Cheers

    #1977747
    ADAM
    Participant
    Rank: Rank-1

    Buy 2 sought after items and post them here. You'll have more than enough to download most of the site as well as points for requests. Enter a contest for more points. Generous members donate often.

    I do think occasionally something may pop up on a pay site that isn't here but its RARE.
    Watch the sites and you'll see it pop here first then on other sites a minute later. They farm this site like an MMORPG spawn.

    ATM its the best Daz site for sharing even if it has some speed bumps.

    #1977752
    Katz
    Participant
    Rank: Rank-2

    Just FYI, I post stuff all the time.
    I love the site.

    #1977771
    Abad
    Participant
    Rank: Rank 5

    @zerodayjay , On no other website will you find this chat between users, where people exchange ideas, suggest procedures, give advice on methods or even talk about Eskimo gastronomy... 🙂
    That is the immense difference between ZoneGfx and "the others"....: Apart from the Admins, the user is the one who builds "the zone". Welcome.

    #1977832
    Ethiopia
    Participant
    Rank: Rank-1

    @abad, Amen!

    #1977834
    Abad
    Participant
    Rank: Rank 5

    @ethiopia, "amén" is a word... based on a kind of "obsolete" language, such as Latin...
    For me, as if you write "iueweiiwjjjkk!", more pretty! 😀

    #1977867
    Charley
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    Rank: Rank 6

    I find those type of sites really suspect. There's one site in particular that claims to have every almost every new item available and some very old ones. For example, one item that I inquired about here. It's the Royal Symbols props pack that I bought from RDNA years ago but was lost along with tons of other assets when my HDD died. Unlike other RDNA items, it wasn't migrated to DAZ so I couldn't buy it again - and I would gladly have done so.

    I searched the the internet for it and came up short every time, but surprise, surprise, a few days after I made a post here requesting it, it popped up on the site. If it was a newer item or a much sought after item, I'd call it a coincidence, but the fact that it was either a free or really dirt cheap obscure item at the time I acquired it, I find it a little sus that it popped up there a few days after I mentioned it here. My belief is that they pretend to have those items in order to draw people in, then make the members jump through metaphorical hoops in order to purchase the items, only to be told there was a problem and the item isn't available anymore. Because, IMO, they don't have any of those brand new or old obscure assets in the first place, it's a money making scam.

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