How to save breast shape as a preset from a specific character?

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  • #1248494
    John Lund
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    I want to use the breast shape - only - of a specific character, i e not the whole body.

    I have tried to load the character body I want the shape from,

    Save as Shaping Preset -> Genesis 8 Female - Actor - Chest

    ... and then apply the preset on another character...but this doesn't work...nothing changes...

    Is it a way of doing it? Help very appreciated!!

    #1248640
    blogg biggity
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    I'm noob myself, but my understanding is that what you're trying to do might not be possible _as you're trying to do it_.

    Pretty sure presets only work within the same figure (or base/subfigure). If the 'preset' you're trying to save is for a morph not on the base G8 figure (which is your target), then you can't apply it. You need another method- such as to extract the specific morph you want and then apply it to the new figure, and _then_ (I think) you can apply the preset- or at worst dial it in manually.

    Someone more knowledgeable than me can correct/respond, but if you want a specific answer, you probably need to clarify what your source figure is so people know how difficult the process would be. Pulling a shape off Olympia is different from pulling one from Sakura 8, The Girl 7, Victoria 4, or Dawn SE!

    Hope that helps!

    #1248661
    Anonymous
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    I haven't used it before, but could this help?
    https://zonegfx.com/x-morphs-shape-splitter/

    #1248674
    John Lund
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    Thanks @bloggbigg! Yes, maybe it's not possible. What I want is to use the breasts of (https://zonegfx.com/3dss-tinslea-for-genesis-8-female/) on other G8F figures.

    Thanks @trader! I know I tried it when it came up here but I lost interest after failing to understand how it worked after....60 seconds or something....!

    Have you or anyone else here used (https://zonegfx.com/x-morphs-shape-splitter/) and could explain how to extract specifically the breasts with that tool?

    #1248683
    Dragon
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    I understand what you're trying to do. Don't know if its possible, however, there are PLENTY of breast morphs for G8F now, that can most likely get the shape you want.

    #1248729
    John Lund
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    I just revisited X-Morphs and .... after reading the super-short manual and checking thrue the forum at Daz...nope, I don't understand a sh-t of how to use the product.

    The closest answer I got of how to extract the breasts was this interchange:
    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/post/quote/248176/Comment_3998036

    Mr Bowen said:
    Is it possible to extract the breasts only?
    Also, I forgot to ask. Can we do the legs without the hip or waist shapes?

    Answer:
    yes, both is possible with the vertex selection

    I don't have a clue how the "vertex selection" is working...anyone here that do understand it?

    #1248768
    blogg biggity
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    Trader:
    Looks like that would do the job.

    but as Dragon mentioned, it would indeed be easier to find similar breasts elsewhere.

    I looked at the original model, and it seems to be simply 2 morphs- 1 for the head, & 1 for the body- so to get just a part, you'll need to so something 'clever'. 😛

    There appears to be ways to do this (google "A way to save just one body part as a morph?") in Zbrush, Blender (and likely other apps)- so it can be done- just a matter of how troublesome to do it.

    John Lund:

    Without going to deep into it, all 3D figures are a 'mesh' of triangles (sometimes shown 2 at a time to represent squares), and the corners of these triangles are the 'vertex' mentioned (actually 'vertices' as plural). It's basically like coordinates on graph paper, only not as ordered.

    I don't know the specifics of how to 'vertex select' an area using the app, but that's basically what you're doing- pitting 'pins' in certain intersections on the 'map' and saying 'connect those pins as boundaries, then gimme everything inside...'.

    So for 6 pins, you'd 'draw' something like a hexagon. 4 is of course a square, etc. You'd basically be 'cutting out' an area to replace the normal area (not exactly- but close enough for a simple explanation).

    Well- that's likely how it works- they may in fact do something slightly different- but for explanation purposes, that should be fine to give you an idea. I hope.

    #1248790
    John Lund
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    Thanks @bloggbigg!

    What you say makes sense, the problem is that the product doesn't include any instructions for anything else than the simplest things like extracting a head morph via a preset.

    It looks like people at the product forum are a bit frustrated too.

    #1248829
    blogg biggity
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    Yeah, those docs are horrible.

    Probably better to go the external app route, then.
    I can't think of anything else other than head-swapping (if that's good enough)... I suspect even if Shape Splitter works, it may have some weird management overhead you might not like as I'm not sure how it does what it does (without saving a separate morph as it claims in the manual).

    Good Luck, though!

    #1249336
    John Lund
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    @bloggbigg!

    I think I will just stick to simpler way of doing the same thing...

    #1249821
    blogg biggity
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    Try Breast Control Genesis 8 Female(s) & you should be able to recreate the shape, or G8f- Breasts Morphs for G8F Vol 3 has a shape close to what you want.

    #1249846
    John Lund
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    Thanks @bloggbigg!

    Will check them!

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