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@ethiopia Every time you reply to this thread is to throw hate at someone or to a group of people, could you chill out? what are you, 5yo? Not all sharers are butthurt like you are because some people are downloading their stuff and not even saying "thanks". This is how communities work, it's how internet in general works, we all give something to the pool without much expectations of receiving back from who we shared with, and maybe, just maybe few of who have received something decide later on to return something back.
Digital media is not a finite resource, 1 person downloading something you uploaded is exactly the same as if 1000 people did, or even 1.000.000, the final cost for you is exactly the same, and it's much better overall ROI for everybody if as many people as possible receive the things everybody is sharing because the probability of more people giving something back(one way or another) is much higher than if we all gatekeep some "computer bytes" to only whom shares back. Forcing people to share ALWAYS results in less people sharing overall, and sharing without strings attached always incentives reciprocity, it's human nature, the effectiveness of guilt is MUCH greater and longer lasting than that of fear or pain.
And by the way, you never know if you downloaded something from someone who is a complete leech here, but is a great sharer on another web site; maybe it was an ebook, or a tutorial, a movie, a song, a torrent that otherwise would be dead... yes, there is plenty of complete leechers on the internet that never shared shit in their life, but you can't just have a mental break down every time you cross paths with such a person, what a miserable life is that where you stress about a problem that is unfixable.
@Bofadeez I found your post very informative, I now have a better idea how this site works, as most sites of this type usually don't have its members themselves purchase the goods offered to their sites, so admittedly, I lumped this site along with others that I used to frequent...
I don't mind being proven wrong about this, however, and now I'm able to better adjust my opinion about this site, and how I interact with it, but yes, I initially made my comment because I hate it when sites like this fall by the wayside due to what I just described from my last comment.
So, it was my mistake for lumping this site with others that failed, I was under the wrong impression that much of the content was from personal collections freely gained from other sites, as that was pretty common for a lot of pirate/trading sites, so I admittedly was under the wrong impression...
As I usually come to these types of sites because I don't own the pieces offered here, and that's the only way I could get them, other than paying for them myself, which would defeat the purpose of even coming to pirate sites, but I have gained a bit of respect for what you guys have been doing here as your method is self-sustaining!
Because if people are buying and sharing the goods, that is pretty unique for a pirate site to have the members themselves purchasing/supplying the site, rather than just have administrators/staff supplying goods, which I used to think with this site, so thanks for clarifying this site for me, and I now know what to expect for myself and others going forward!
Don't mind Ethiopia's comment too much because he was just expressing the opinions of many others on the topic. What I do like is how you've changed you opinion in light of new information, and admitting to it. A rare commodity these days mate so full respect for doing so, a sign of maturity.
Thanks for saying so Frank21 yeah, I try to make my default for being online to never take anything said personally, and in times of conflict I try to always default to objectivity, and focus on the issue instead of the person, I find it's much easier that way!
Also, I hold everything I do and say online and offline as my responsibility, meaning I take full responsibility for what I say and do, no exceptions, for good or ill, it matters not, mainly due to the fact that it is not the norm online/offline, as too many people usually rely on excuses and cop-pouts instead of dealing with the fallout of their actions head-on!
Only a fool maintains their ignorance when new information contradicts their own, I refuse to do so, as it's incredibly counter-productive for everyone involved!
@3dartist2k22 glad you were willing to learn 🙂 so many aren't, so I'm genuinely sorry if my first comment seemed a bit abrasive. This site is pretty much *the* origin for most (if not all) of the other sites that pirate Daz assets, so when we say leechers are a problem it's because when something is shared here, it's almost immediately ripped off to the other sites and hosted for profit (in the form of obstructive ad revenue or partner deals with scammy file hosting sites that require premium accounts).
I don't think anyone (other than the most curmudgeonly among us) have any ill will toward people who just want to join up and download things without having to think about it more than that. It's just when people are disrespectful to the people who are sharing assets that tempers flare and people get toxic.
"people who just want to join up and download things" I think that would cover 100% of everyone who initially signed up to XGFX. While it's great to have a sense of community here, some long-time members take that to also mean an entitlement to diss newcomers and the less experienced members. This faux-elitism assumes an unequal status which is hard to justify on any pirate site when we're all just criminals doing the same thing.
@Bofadeez: No, your comment was quite reasonable, so it's not even an issue as far as I'm concerned, as you expressed your concern with my comment with both a respectively assertive response as a long-time member and as someone who usually takes the civil route whenever there's a conflict...
This being the actual source for shitty reposting sites is incredibly valuable information, as I now know to hunt down these sites in order to avoid them in the future.
I admittedly should have made the connection earlier, especially as an avid video collector, as I always bristled at shitty reposter spam channels that pop up on YouTube, and the like, as they are never the same quality, which is not unlike with the unofficial Daz/3Dprog ecosystem in that you don't get the original, just the adware/pup/malware-infected version... :^P
I never looked into those sites too deeply as they have no real community anyway, as they're pretty much spam sites, so I admittedly treated them (Even at this site before I signed up.) as simply repository sites, I had no idea that this site was the actual source of spammer/reposting sites strewn all over the net...
Not only that, but I think I'm gonna do a bit more digging in the forums in order to find out which sites to avoid! As spam sites, equal a pure path for malware infection and other nasty bits that you find online that make it into your computer!
It might be wise for new members to familiarise themselves to what's going on here. We are not a legal site, nor a repository nor a suppository LOL of legal content. If that disturbs you, you better get the fuck out while you can. Perhaps that should be made more evident on the site's front page.
A sort of adult-gate like the pron sites.@frank22, this site isn't a repository of any of the content traded here. That is done between the buyers and sellers. This site is just a meeting place, like a giant flea market where people buy and sell their own stuff. I know you know that, but others might not.
@Frank21While I first encountered this site, I thought it was like most other sites that I frequented, and I treated them similarly I found out it was different once I signed up however, but yes I did have the wrong impression at first, but I have since learned otherwise.
But nevertheless, thanks to this thread, I now know more about the site better than even when I first signed up.
If someone has decided to buy something and share it here it wont really affect his or her cost. like if you buy something for 20$ you already did it, if you decide to share it here or not wont make you pay more or less.
Also for those who say "Fill dead posts to get points" its not that easy because in my case i donwload very limited and very little amount of things that i only need for specific scenario and i cant really keep all the things that i have downloaded in the past because i dont have enough space in my computer. there are dozens of thousands of items and i cant predict which will go dead link and which wont.
@meowth594 think of it like this, spending $20 on an asset can either get you one asset for $20 and nothing else (if you don't share it), or $20 for one asset you bought and like 40-50,000 points between request fills and the long tail of blog post purchases (if you do share it). Then you have those points you can use to make like, 100 requests, or buy 1,000 items on the blog.
If a few bucks once in a while for a hobby that requires as much time and energy as this one does to get good at it is a dealbreaker, then...you get 50 points a day. Save 'em up for requests, and get other stuff elsewhere.
I HAVE Been here for years and NO i do not share as I DONT have alot of rl income to buy daz stuff so the changes are going to Effect other like ME i only use them to make stuff as i am Disbaled and only get 900 bucks a mo for bills making stuff is the only enjoyment i get So please re think the points and all People will still get it and re post you will NEVER be able to stop it they will find ways around it Why make us low income people suffer for others
there was a statement made earlier "The discontinuation of the free daily points would make users frugal with their existing points balance"quite the opposite, since the implementation of the ban i quit coming to this site, in fact this is the first day since then i have logged on to see what changed, so in my case i have become frugal in logging in...I have an addiction to daz studio and own over 10k of thier products, and then there is rederosity and the others... i use this site to preview what I want to buy, but if thats removed there is no reason to come back...as for publishing some of those files myself, why? it would mean supporting a site that has fallen out of favor to me, due to greed...I am sorry the site is being pirated, but thats what the site is...so my sympathy is limited. and i likely wont log on again until spring to see if it still exists
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