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  • #2094432
    ColdBeer31
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    Rank: Rank 4

    ... so this will be the next shit show. Almost $20 per month for some additional discounts, improved exporters and essentially the included Mesh Grabebr tool.

    Sit back and enjoy the rage. Cookies, anyone?

    #2094435
    eelgoo
    Moderator
    Rank: Rank 7

    Yes, so now they have two elite tiers.

    Why not just upgrade the first elite tier, to keep it simple?

    Their marketing is always complex & confusing.

    They would probably get a lot more sales if they just kept it simple enough so that folks could easily understand it!

    :0/

    #2094443
    Elim
    Participant
    Rank: Rank 7

    Been reading about a bit tonight. It's a mess - considering the issue that yearly memberships won't be available anymore. I don't like the idea on monthly subscriptions. I try to avoid them where ever I can online. I'll decide next year if I'll continue with mine or wait and see what happens. Daz+ will cost $50 more per year, if I continue. Makes it worse when I convert into Australian dollars.

    #2094463
    eelgoo
    Moderator
    Rank: Rank 7

    For me there just aren't sufficient good quality on topic releases at Daz that actually come close to making either Daz elite membership even worth considering. :0/

    #2094470
    scoobydude51
    Participant
    Rank: Rank 4

    Of course they had to lock the most requested plugin, a Genesis 1,2,3,8/8.1 to Genesis 9 converter behind the DAZ Premier subscription.

    EDIT: turns out to be one of ManFriday’s plugins. They literally took his plugins and bundled it into DAZ Studio Premier.

    #2094473
    scoobydude51
    Participant
    Rank: Rank 4

    @Tetera

    AI is the reason why they’re going down this route. They are losing so much cash that they’re desperately wanting it back.

    The bundles were outrageously expensive even after they stopped using FOMO tactics for the extra shapes, so of course they stopped selling new ones.

    The PAs leaving in droves is another reason why they’ve been picking up Renderosity vendors. And I don’t think it’ll be long before they move back to other marketplaces.

    DAZ is in a full freefall (thanks VCs) and seeing that Unreal Engine is getting a built in character creator tool is probably putting DAZ back even further into irrelevancy

    #2094474
    Ethiopia
    Participant
    Rank: Rank-1

    We'd all better keep our copies of Studio since Daz can't have much time left as it slides into the toilet called 'enshitification'. The thread in Daz's forums has nothing good to say. Score another loss for Tafi.

    #2094475
    scoobydude51
    Participant
    Rank: Rank 4

    @Ethiopia I wouldn’t be surprised if 4.22 will be the last “free” and offline version of DAZ Studio since from what’s happening, version 4.23 will probably have a fully online release with no offline functionality, especially with the upcoming AI character creation tool…

    #2094478
    eelgoo
    Moderator
    Rank: Rank 7

    Nor me.

    I think it is time to back up your preferred version of DS before it disappears.

    :0/

    #2094479
    Ethiopia
    Participant
    Rank: Rank-1

    @eelgoo,
    Someone mentioned here a while back that we could find ourselves being the repository or archive for
    all the Daz/Poser stuff when the companies finally go under because they've been stupid.

    #2094480
    eelgoo
    Moderator
    Rank: Rank 7

    TBH I think that is more than likely.

    #2094484
    Ethiopia
    Participant
    Rank: Rank-1

    @tetera, I don't think it's going to work that way. I believe that you'll need to be logged into their servers to access the premiere services since they'll exist ONLY on the servers. It'll work much like the existing AI generators.

    #2094488
    eelgoo
    Moderator
    Rank: Rank 7

    No way I will ever use DS on line.

    Never have never will.

    🙂

    #2094494
    Anna1945
    Participant
    Rank: Rank Overload

    Have belonged to Daz for over 17 years.
    With what I have purchased (and stolen) if I dollar average...I come out
    ahead.
    If they will let me pay a year up front I will subscribe (will contact them)
    Now
    Mentioned this in another thread.
    When you use Daz Install Manager (I don't, except for the following)
    it actually installs the files to a default section of your computer.
    So if you were to update or install a new version, the actual file is
    there. Merely copying and pasting these files will provide a backup.
    In Windows 10 the location if these files is:
    C>Users>Public>Public Documents>Daz 3D>InstallManager>Downloads.
    As a side note goz plugins are also there.
    You only have to do it once.......insurance.
    By the way these files take up space, it is not a bad idea
    to copy then somewhere else

    #2094495
    Grouchy Old Fart
    Participant
    Rank: Rank 3

    Sub? I dumped Adobe products when they went to a sub, so I'm for damn sure not going to pay for a DAZ sub. I have decades (literally, decades!) worth of content to fall back on, a huge stockpile of ancient Poser stuff I can up-convert, and (admittedly random) backup versions of DAZ Studio going back for years now (and as long as Windows keeps a compatibility mode going in the future that can reach down to W11, they will work for years to come.)

    By the way, if you want to stock up on some previous DS versions yourself, here's a good place to pull down a few past versions to your HDD: https://f95zone.to/threads/daz-studio-repository.215178/

    Sucks about the converter being locked behind a sub - it's also the first time that I've seen that tactic. Did anyone grab the plugin before it got locked up?

    From @scoobydude51 : "Unreal Engine is getting a built in character creator tool"

    ...ooo! tell me more! (I'll go look, too.) Might be a great place to migrate to if it's extensible enough.

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