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    Eve Adams
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    More and more I'm using AI to enhance my Daz renders and, while it can be great, more times than not, it can be a bit hit or miss. I was looking through some old renders for inspiration for the calendar competition and came across this render I'd posted as an entry for an earlier one, last year or the year before.
    Run with the Fox

    So I thought, I wonder what Flux can make out of this, so I threw it in, and let it decide what the image was, then I let it do its thing. Eventually, after a few tweaks in the description, it gave me this.
    Fox

    I was quite happy with that one, but the first image it spat out, was this one.
    Oh Deer

    I don't even know where to begin.

    #2102722
    Frank21
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    Yeh, I'm having trouble getting started too. Your last image looks half real and half toonish (the deer) which doesn't really work that well together IMO.

    #2102733
    ADAM
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    Not used Flux. I just drop stuff in Krea and hope for the best.

    #2102780
    Eve Adams
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    @frank22 For that image I let flux figure out for itself what the image was, and it decided on this: "animal, bare tree, branch, day, forest, nature, no humans, outdoors, pine tree, scenery, snow, snowflakes, snowing, tree, winter" and that seemed fair enough to me so I let it do its thing.
    I'm not sure how it managed to confuse a 5 legged cartoon deer with a fox, but I suppose even AI has its off days.
    I thought using AI was going to save me some time in post, and I'll persevere with it, but with this image, it was the exact opposite. When I told Flux the animal was a Fox, we were on the right track, but not one of the images it generated, and there were a lot, had actual snow falling, so I'd have needed to go to post anyway.


    @d0gg0d
    I hadn't used Krea before, but I signed up for the free plan to give it a try. Some of the images it produced for my Run with the Fox idea were quite good, but it wasn't quite ready for Henry Cavill ripping off his firefighter suit inside a burning building. Mind you, my local copy of Flux hasn't been great with that one either.

    I think the takeaway from my experiments is that AI can be handy if you've got the time to persevere with it, but it's still got quite a way to go.

    #2103856
    Deborah
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    I've been playing around with Flux (hardly, my hardware sucks) and Pony with Daz renders of my VN in production. Most of times you know how it is: dozens of generations to get one kind of decent.

    But I'm not sure about using it by now. AI keeps doing strange things, like creating bones where they don't exist (like weird ribs and collabones, etc). It demands too much inpaint and patience. Maybe for achieving better/natural skins it can work, in low CFGs.

    #2103858
    Frank21
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    ".... dozens of generations to get one kind of decent."
    Ha ha, that's AI alright. Have you noticed that after a while the renders begin to get worse and drift away from the prompts, maybe just my imagination/frustration.
    Sometimes I'll have to do 100+ renders to get to what I want. The thing that boils my piss is that most of them are OK but with just one little thing wrong... usually hands.

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